Ashwin vs Jadeja

[subshakerz]

You have no point here. You're just cherry picking games rather than doing a broader study while studiously ignoring the opposing points. Again, when you decide to use your brain, let me know. I've asked you this quite often and you've still not answered me properly. It almost seems like you don't have an answer as to why you make up nonsense...

Ashwin has a big sample in SENA. And I gave counter examples to show other quality spinners have achieved what I said would be an expectation.

 

[J_C]

Jadeja since most opponent ATG XIs would be RHB dominated plus he is a better bat.

 

[Xix2565]

Ashwin has a big sample in SENA. And I gave counter examples to show other quality spinners have achieved what I said would be an expectation.

That still doesn't exclude luck. You gave a handful of matches and the match where Lyon tore his hamstring and Bairstow got stumped. Your posting is closer to ChatGPT stealing than it is to a baby's keyboard smashing.

 

[subshakerz]

That still doesn't exclude luck. You gave a handful of matches and the match where Lyon tore his hamstring and Bairstow got stumped. Your posting is closer to ChatGPT stealing than it is to a baby's keyboard smashing.

I gave you samples from several quality spinners with big impact games in all SENA countries and that's not even going towards older history. And almost all these spinners have at least a couple of such games.

Luck can't justify a hole in as big a sample as 26 games. That's a cope.

 

[Xix2565]

I gave you samples from several quality spinners with big impact games in all SENA countries and that's not even going towards older history. And almost all these spinners have at least a couple of such games.

Luck can't justify a hole in as big a sample as 26 games. That's a cope.

You gave no response to my points, and you want to act like giving random Tests you found via ChatGPT is somehow proving your point? Again, is this a genetic condition?

A lot of things, including luck can combine to explain the performances. That you don't want to understand is not my problem, it's yours. I can't help someone whose intellectual equivalent is a koala.

 

[subshakerz]

A lot of things, including luck can combine to explain the performances.

Sure a lot of things besides luck, such as lack of skill.

 

[Xix2565]

Sure a lot of things besides luck, such as lack of skill.

Doesn't work if you actually watched the spinners in action. Again, can you stop for a moment and explain whether you have a genetic condition that prevents you from using your brain properly or not? I'm not interested in anything else but that, since it'll tell me whether or not you made this thread in the right mind or you need some form of medication.

 

[subshakerz]

Doesn't work if you actually watched the spinners in action.

So bad luck explains 50.games in which Jadeja and Ashwin couldn't deliver that level of match impact that others did in far fewer games. Ok.

 

[Xix2565]

So bad luck explains 50.games in which Jadeja and Ashwin couldn't deliver that level of match impact that others did in far fewer games. Ok.

Are you reading what I'm saying or are you just this illiterate? Is this inherited or just your bad luck?

 

[subshakerz]

Are you reading what I'm saying or are you just this illiterate? Is this inherited or just your bad luck?

I'm ignoring personal jibes.

 

[Xix2565]

I'm ignoring personal jibes.

It's pertinent to the topic given the continual refusal to understand and acknowledge opposing points. If this isn't a deliberate attempt to avoid being proven wrong about your opinions, then there must be some fundamental problem within you. Hence the questions about genes.

 

[Majestic]

There is no hard and fast rule here. All Indian spinners have been great at home and conditions assisting spinners.

Jadeja is a little different in the sense that once he started making key contributions with bat( around 2019) his bowling started going down. Since then, he has been more of a batting all rounder who still manages to pick a lot of wickets when pitches turn a lot. Before that, he was a bowling all rounder as he produced decent figures away.

So, if I have to pick two spinners, one will be a genuine spinner and other in A/R sense would be Jadeja. The first one can be Ashwin probably because he had more skills and variations than Kumble and was a better batsman.

 

[subshakerz]

It's pertinent to the topic given the continual refusal to understand and acknowledge opposing points. If this isn't a deliberate attempt to avoid being proven wrong about your opinions, then there must be some fundamental problem within you. Hence the questions about genes.

You should note my tact with you and attempt to have the same level of manners.

 

[honestbharani]

If I am picking a #7, its Jaddu. If I am picking a #8, its AshWIN. Pretty simple, really.

 

[subshakerz]

If I am picking a #7, its Jaddu. If I am picking a #8, its AshWIN. Pretty simple, really.

Who is more undroppable

 

[Xix2565]

You should note my tact with you and attempt to have the same level of manners.

You've continually ignored valid points. Am I supposed to take this as a sign of good manners? I don't see why I should to be frank.

 

[subshakerz]

You've continually ignored valid points. Am I supposed to take this as a sign of good manners? I don't see why I should to be frank.

I suggest we both don't engage with each other from now on. Please proceed to to discuss with others.

 

[honestbharani]

weak from salty. Disappointed.

 

[CricAddict]

That's a red herring and you know it.

If a SC batsman didn't score a ton in SENA would it be ok to point out that as a legitimate issue and say even lesser bats have done it?

If a sc batsman doesn't score a century in sena when no sena batsman scores a century in the same pitches, then it won't be OK to show it as a legitimate issue. Otherwise it is.

 

[CricAddict]

Ashwin has a big sample in SENA. And I gave counter examples to show other quality spinners have achieved what I said would be an expectation.

How many other spinners have turned matches on the same pitches that Ashwin played. May be 1 or 2 matches. Nothing more.