All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[Johan]

Bro averages 55 at home and 39 away

He had a bad series in South Africa but otherwise he averages 52 in West Indies, 45 in England and 43 in India. 40+ in 3/4 of the countries he has an okay sample size in. True HTB would be someone like Warner who sucked everywhere overseas other than one or two exceptions (South Africa, maybe Ban)

 

[capt_Luffy]

He had a bad series in South Africa but otherwise he averages 52 in West Indies, 45 in England and 43 in India. 40+ in 3/4 of the countries he has an okay sample size in. True HTB would be someone like Warner who sucked everywhere overseas other than one or two exceptions (South Africa, maybe Ban)

Does Jayawardene counts?

 

[Johan]

Does Jayawardene counts?

He is quintessential.

 

[Coronis]

Jayawardene 59 at home 39 overseas = yes he’s quintessential

Lawry 55 at home 39 overseas = oh no Coronis, thats some CRAZY **** you be spouting

 

[capt_Luffy]

Jayawardene 59 at home 39 overseas = massive htb acknowledged by everyone

Lawry 55 at home 39 overseas = oh no Coronis, thats some CRAZY **** you be spouting

Tbh I think it's a way too simplistic approach. Jayawardene was Great in India and good in Pakistan, but legit sucked in SA, AUS and NZ, and averaged 35 in England against some pretty mid sides as well. Lawry only struggled in SA, he was good to very good in WI, ENG and India.

 

[Johan]

Lawry had one bad country out of the four where he played a decent amount of Tests.

Mahela had five bad countries out of the big eight he consistently toured and played a decent amount of Tests in. Bangladesh and Zimbabwe don't matter.

They are not the same.

 

[ataraxia]

How so?

RSA didn't play WI until after apartheid.

 

[Thala_0710]

Clem Hill
VVS Laxman
Frank Woolley


Wilfred Rhodes

Laxman over Kohli, Younis, May is.......... Interesting

 

[Johan]

Hill over May is.....Interesting

 

[Johan]

RSA didn't play WI until after apartheid.

Fortunate for the Ws, unfortunate for Hall.

 

[Line and Length]

Surprised Younis Khan has avoided selection to date.

Averaged 52.06 in 118 Tests with 34 centuries.
Only weakness appears in WI.

 

[Coronis]

Hill over May is.....Interesting

Trumper in the third XI and Hill still not in is more interesting imo

 

[Johan]

Trumper in the third XI and Hill still not in is more interesting imo

No comments.

 

[Coronis]

Also Tayfield is crazily underrated if Benaud or Rhodes gets voted in ahead of him.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Rhodes vs Tayfield vs Benaud is looking close. Thought Gibbs and probs Kumble will receive a few votes as well

 

[Johan]

Their batting is doing the heavy lifting, bowling wise Gibbs and Tayfield are good BAT candidates.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Also Tayfield is crazily underrated if Benaud or Rhodes gets voted in ahead of him.

Rhodes is so tough to rate and Benaud is an allrounder and arguably the best Captain ever.

 

[Johan]

Rhodes is a Cricketer whose true value shines in his actual Cricket career, First Class or Test class, not in random excerises like this.

 

[Coronis]

Will just be off for me if there’s a gap between Tayfield and the likes of Ashwin, Verity, Grimmett and Laker, a group of bowlers to which he most certainly belongs

 

[Johan]

I would vote Gibbs in before Tayfield though, longevity counts for something.