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All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Snow vs Statham is unironically very debateable, I think @BazBall21 was extremely convincing in that regard, Snow has played 34 Tests against Australia and West Indies and got 155 wickets at just 26 a piece, taking 4.5 wickets every game and had arguably the best tours of West Indies by any English bowler ever, and the best tour of Australia since Bedser... arguably Larwood. Statham has an issue that even before he completely forgot how to bowl at the end of his career, he was averaging 29 a piece against those two and had 95 wickets in 27 Tests.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah they were, buy that's why I have him ahead of someone like Broad, but can't have him over guys like Willis
I can understand, just feel his away game number would be an issue if it was on the weaker side. While it's the Exact opposite, his Home record is worse in comparison and he had absolutely ATG away returns. Heck, both his away full tours were better than anything from Dylan.
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Regarding Snow vs Willis – Both of Snow's away tours trump Willis's foreign tours, Willis was taken apart in West Indies and was a little defensive in Australia (3 WPM), Willis in 1979 or 1980 in the weird three match series in Australia by England bowled so badly that Australia won 2-1, it was probably on par with what Jake Ball and Mason Crane did in Australia in 2017, though the pitches Willis got were the best Australia ever was for bowling and he still tanked so bad. Willis gets point for his work in Asia and New Zealand, but overall I think Snow trumps him by a bit, largely because everyone who saw both overwhelmingly favours Snow, I have seen more people compare or slot Snow with Trueman or Lillee than I have seen people place him with Willis. The consensus is not as one sided as Compton vs Barrington but it's quite one sided.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Regarding Snow vs Willis – Both of Snow's away tours trump Willis's foreign tours, Willis was taken apart in West Indies and was a little defensive in Australia (3 WPM), Willis in 1979 or 1980 in the weird three match series in Australia by England bowled so badly that Australia won 2-1, it was probably on par with what Jake Ball and Mason Crane did in Australia in 2017, though the pitches Willis got were the best Australia ever was for bowling and he still tanked so bad. Willis gets point for his work in Asia and New Zealand, but overall I think Snow trumps him by a bit, largely because everyone who saw both overwhelmingly favours Snow, I have seen more people compare or slot Snow with Trueman or Lillee than I have seen people place him with Willis. The consensus is not as one sided as Compton vs Barrington but it's quite one sided.
Will say Willis is better at home though
 

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