All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[subshakerz]

Actually it's you.

Yes Ames was Gilly before Gilly, but that doesn't speak to his keeping.

How about you and the other point?

No Kimber mentioned this keeping if I recall.

What other point, on number 8s? You know he indicated he prefers Imran for his ATG XI, right?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah Sanga was pretty decent, especially to spin, but imo the gap was big there to pace, + the fact that his batting clearly suffered a lot when he was keeping. So as wkb, the batting gap is actually quite less.

He kept almost exclusively pre Peak. It suffered somewhat, but if he bats at 6 I still expect the output of a 50+ bat.

 

[Johan]

I might vote Sir Clyde just for the fun of it.

 

[subshakerz]

Voting Kallis regardless.

Don't be such a stick in the mud.

 

[kyear2]

You had Walcott in your WI ATG XI?

Yes, because Dujon wasn't good to spin and Walcott was an actual world class wicketkeeper.

 

[subshakerz]

I might vote Sir Clyde just for the fun of it.

I will if the vote goes that way.

 

[Thala_0710]

He kept almost exclusively pre Peak. It suffered somewhat, but if he bats at 6 I still expect the output of a 50+ bat.

I'd expect mid 40s, knott was mid 30s...I think I'll still stick with the keeping advantage considering the bowling attack we have. For an average team, Sangakkara makes sense.

 

[subshakerz]

Yes, because Dujon wasn't good to spin and Walcott was an actual world class wicketkeeper.

I am fine with Walcott.

 

[subshakerz]

And Sangakkara (or even Walcott) is also a better option than Ames.

I agree. And allows us to vote Miller more easily.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I will if the vote goes that way.

Comeon! Sangakkara is just Walcott but with a much longer sample size and better batting output given position

 

[Coronis]

fwiw btw, picking Sanga over Knott is akin to picking Watling over Knott.

 

[Thala_0710]

I'd expect mid 40s, knott was mid 30s...I think I'll still stick with the keeping advantage considering the bowling attack we have. For an average team, Sangakkara makes sense.

Kallis+Knott just makes more sense to me than Miller+Sanga

 

[subshakerz]

Comeon! Sangakkara is just Walcott but with a much longer sample size and better batting output given position

Sure. I am agnostic between them as long as we get a batting heavy keeper

 

[capt_Luffy]

I'd expect mid 40s, knott was mid 30s...I think I'll still stick with the keeping advantage considering the bowling attack we have. For an average team, Sangakkara makes sense.

Nah, from 57 (65 post gloves) around 50 batting at 6 seems respectable. And Knott was low 30s. There batting gap is quite a massive one imo.

 

[subshakerz]

Kallis+Knott just makes more sense to me than Miller+Sanga

What about Walcott?

 

[Thala_0710]

What about Walcott?

Sanga are Walcott are similar cases for me... Sanga a slight improvement if anything

 

[kyear2]

I think Sanga was a more proven keeper than them. Heck he kept in more Tests than Ames! And most importantly, he did so to Murali in almost all of them, and his keeping was never questioned. What more can you expect?

Sorry to bring you into this conversation.

@JBMAC in your estimation, who was the better keeper between Walcott and Sangakkara?

I don't recall you saying you've seen Ames, but would have know and heard stories about him?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kallis+Knott just makes more sense to me than Miller+Sanga

Miller+Sanga gives you practically the same batting and a World Class bowler. Miller, Imran, Ambrose, Barnes and Murali; this team can legit beat the World XI in a few games.

 

[capt_Luffy]

fwiw btw, picking Sanga over Knott is akin to picking Watling over Knott.

Watling wasn't a Top 15 batsman though.

 

[subshakerz]

He kept almost exclusively pre Peak. It suffered somewhat, but if he bats at 6 I still expect the output of a 50+ bat.

After this round, how are you going to call for the next positions?