All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[kyear2]

He made some good points on him being Gilly before Gilly.

He's made some very recent salient points regarding your favorite topic.

Were they good points as well?

 

[kyear2]

He believes in Barnes bowling when it comes to the keeper but not as far as the batsman facing him. Typical.

Don't think he should be selected.

Once he's there you have to figure out how to keep to him?

How is this not obvious?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Walcott is another, huge man, excellent keeper to spin (Murali), can potentially stand to stumps for Barnes given his large reach, exceptional batsman.

Sangakkara has experience keeping to Murali though, and he certainly was very solid to that.

 

[subshakerz]

He's made some very recent salient points regarding your favorite topic.

Were they good points as well?

You ignore Kimber when inconvenient.

 

[sayon basak]

Don't think hi should be selected.

Once he's there you have to figure out how to keep to him?

How is this not obvious?

Do you believe that he could move the ball?

 

[Johan]

basically, it's Walcott/Sangakkara vs Knott/Ames types. If the latter wins, Kallis wins, if the prior wins then Miller wins.

 

[subshakerz]

Don't think hi should be selected.

Once he's there you have to figure out how to keep to him?

How is this not obvious?

Why would his keeping be a problem for you if you don't believe he could mix it up as claimed?

 

[subshakerz]

basically, it's Walcott/Sangakkara vs Knott/Ames types. If the latter wins, Kallis wins, if the prior wins then Miller wins.

If it's Ames then we should still go with Miller.

 

[kyear2]

They are actually pretty similar, Ames is just the worse version.

Never saw Ames compared to the great govemen, his reputation was largely built on his batting. Jock Cameron was much more revered for his glove work.

 

[kyear2]

Because the value of a pace quartet can be potentially more. Especially if you have a batting heavyweight for keeper.

The keeper whose average was considerably lower when he kept?

 

[capt_Luffy]

He could keep to Murali but when PJ was there, the gap was clear to see. It'd probably be the same or even more exaggerated vs Barnes... I'd take the ATG keeper

PJ/Knott and Sangakkara also has notable gap in batting, which I think in this instance is faaar greater than keeping. Sangakkara wasn't Pant, he was a legit good keeper.

 

[kyear2]

Walcott is another, huge man, excellent keeper to spin (Murali), can potentially stand to stumps for Barnes given his large reach, exceptional batsman.

Now Walcott was an excellent keeper to spin. And I believe actually kept on uncovered pitches in England.

 

[subshakerz]

The keeper whose average was considerably lower when he kept?

Sanga will be batting at 6. Much easier. I don't mind Walcott or ABD either.

 

[subshakerz]

Now Walcott was an excellent keeper to spin. And I believe actually kept on uncovered pitches in England.

You had Walcott in your WI ATG XI?

 

[Thala_0710]

PJ/Knott and Sangakkara also has notable gap in batting, which I think in this instance is faaar greater than keeping. Sangakkara wasn't Pant, he was a legit good keeper.

Yeah Sanga was pretty decent, especially to spin, but imo the gap was big there to pace, + the fact that his batting clearly suffered a lot when he was keeping. So as wkb, the batting gap is actually quite less.

 

[sayon basak]

If it's Ames then we should still go with Miller.

Don't know how Ames' stocks went this high recently. Knott was just better. And Sangakkara (or even Walcott) is also a better option than Ames.

 

[kyear2]

You ignore Kimber when inconvenient.

Actually it's you.

Yes Ames was Gilly before Gilly, but that doesn't speak to his keeping.

How about you and the other point?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Sanga will be batting at 6. Much easier. I don't mind Walcott or ABD either.

I think Sanga was a more proven keeper than them. Heck he kept in more Tests than Ames! And most importantly, he did so to Murali in almost all of them, and his keeping was never questioned. What more can you expect?

 

[kyear2]

basically, it's Walcott/Sangakkara vs Knott/Ames types. If the latter wins, Kallis wins, if the prior wins then Miller wins.

Voting Kallis regardless.

 

[Coronis]

That doesn't count as a criteria.

He’s one of us except with a popular youtube channel.

He made some good points on him being Gilly before Gilly.

He was that guy in county, sure. In tests, no.