All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[kyear2]

Hi all, for the AR position for no.6 in the lineup, I would ask you all to consider voting for Miller over Kallis.

Reasons:

- Hammond already effectively covers the 5th/6th bowler role that Kallis has.

- It would would allow second ATG XI to be an actual contrast to the batting heavy first XI with a bowling heavy second XI

- Miller allows an actual pace quartet of four radically different worldclass bowlers, Ambrose tall miserly, Imran reverser, Barnes mystery seam and classic swing with Miller, along with Murali.

- Let's try something new

He's no where near the batting quality required for the top 6 for a 2nd XI world team.

Hammond and Kallis are more than good enough with the ball to assist.

 

[Johan]

I urge people to pick a good keeper rather than a batsman who keeps a bit, you're keeping to Curtly Ambrose, Sydney Barnes and Muttiah Muralitharan.

 

[Thala_0710]

I don't want to keep it the same, or try something different. I just want to make the best teams possible imo. Sanga idt is a good enough keeper for the second XI, and his batting suffered due to keeping workload as well. So I want knott here who's the ATG keeper and can still bat decently. Now we require more batting than Miller can provide, Kallis is a big improvement in that regard.
The 4 ATG bowlers with Kallis and Hammond both there are more than enough with the ball imo

 

[sayon basak]

Trial version:

World XI	World A
1. JB Hobbs	1. SM Gavaskar
2. L Hutton	2. H Sutcliffe
3. DG Bradman*	3. WR Hammond
4. SR Tendulkar	4. BC Lara
5. IVA Richards	5. SPD Smith
6. GSA Sobers	6. J Kallis
7. AC Gilchrist+	7. APE Knott+
8. RJ Hadlee	8. IAN Khan*
9. MD Marshall	9. CEL Ambrose
10. SK Warne	10. SF Barnes
11. GD McGrath	11. M Muralitharan

Van Sri kinda stuff.

 

[subshakerz]

@DrWolverine @sayon basak @PlayerComparisons @OverratedSanity

Please consider one or both of the following to make things really interesting

Miller rather than Kallis, let's make a pace quartet
Sanga or even ABD rather than Knott

 

[kyear2]

I urge people to pick a good keeper rather than a batsman who keeps a bit, you're keeping to Curtly Ambrose, Sydney Barnes and Muttiah Muralitharan.

And potentially standing up to Barnes.

Sanga is a non starter.

 

[kyear2]

I don't want to keep it the same, or try something different. I just want to make the best teams possible imo. Sanga idt is a good enough keeper for the second XI, and his batting suffered due to keeping workload as well. So I want knott here who's the ATG keeper and can still bat decently. Now we require more batting than Miller can provide, Kallis is a big improvement in that regard.
The 4 ATG bowlers with Kallis and Hammond both there are more than enough with the ball imo

Fully agree.

 

[subshakerz]

He's no where near the batting quality required for the top 6 for a 2nd XI world team.

Hammond and Kallis are more than good enough with the ball to assist.

If you have Sanga in the top 6, Miller can be 7.

An ATG pace quartet would be something else, you ant dismiss it.

 

[Coronis]

Dude this is in the true spirit of democracy

Yeah I guess. Just makes the result feel more contrived to support an agenda which feels “against the spirit of the game”. But that’s just me.

 

[Thala_0710]

If you have Sanga in the top 6, Miller can be 7.

An ATG pace quartet would be something else, you ant dismiss it.

We are keeping to Barnes, Ambrose, Imran and Murali. I want the proper ATG full time keeper, who can bat as well

 

[subshakerz]

I urge people to pick a good keeper rather than a batsman who keeps a bit, you're keeping to Curtly Ambrose, Sydney Barnes and Muttiah Muralitharan.

Sanga at least to Barnes and Murali I don't have an issue with. He was a safe keeper.

I also don't mind ABD. I back him to adapt to Murali.

 

[kyear2]

If you have Sanga in the top 6, Miller can be 7.

An ATG pace quartet would be something else, you ant dismiss it.

Sanga isn't standing up to Barnes, and is quite frankly not a good enough keeper for the 2nd team. Knott is a master and is the only logical choice here.

 

[subshakerz]

Yeah I guess. Just makes the result feel more contrived to support an agenda which feels “against the spirit of the game”. But that’s just me.

But that's part of the debate. If folks disagree they can always suggest something else. Nobody is being forced here.

 

[kyear2]

Yeah I guess. Just makes the result feel more contrived to support an agenda which feels “against the spirit of the game”. But that’s just me.

+ 1

 

[Thala_0710]

If you want more batting I'd consider Ames ahead of Sanga, Abd or Walcott, because he's still a very good, full time keeper.

 

[subshakerz]

Sanga isn't standing up to Barnes, and is quite frankly not a good enough keeper for the 2nd team. Knott is a master and is the only logical choice here.

Neither option is wrong IMO.

 

[Johan]

Sangakkara is interesting, he has shown he can keep to Murali and probably can handle Barnes too, but does anyone want to bat him at 6?

 

[subshakerz]

If you want more batting I'd consider Ames ahead of Sanga, Abd or Walcott, because he's still a very good, full time keeper.

Ames is a good shout actually. Kimber speaks highly of him.

 

[sayon basak]

@DrWolverine @sayon basak @PlayerComparisons @OverratedSanity

Please consider one or both of the following to make things really interesting

Miller rather than Kallis, let's make a pace quartet
Sanga or even ABD rather than Knott

I'm gonna vote one of Knott or Evans, most likely Evans. I thought of voting Miller, but didn't want to miss out on Kallis or Hammond.

 

[sayon basak]

Ames is a good shout actually. Kimber speaks highly of him.

That doesn't count as a criteria.