All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[centurymaker]

@kyear2 if you can take only a single player to bat at 4, Sachin Tendulkar or Garry Sobers, will you take SRT?? If not, why? Given it's one of the most important batting positions and you agree Tendulkar is the better batsman???

Tendulkar at 4
Sobers at 6

or do you mean that he can only select one of Tendulkar or Sobers in his XI, and only at no.4?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Tendulkar at 4
Sobers at 6

or do you mean that he can only select one of Tendulkar or Sobers in his XI, and only at no.4?

Only one at 4

 

[centurymaker]

Only one at 4

Good one.

 

[Swamp Witch Hattie]

Exactly. There's no more important and critical position than your opening bowlers. That's where your best bowlers are, where victories are set up, they get the absolute best of the new ball.

The only consideration that there should be, and quite frankly, ever has been, is are these the best bowlers, the best combination.

You don't **** around worrying about who had the highest batting average.

I don't know why you're upset. The odds are, McGrath will be picked as the third pacer and the team can still use him as an opening bowler with Hadlee at first change. Would you be happy then or still unhappy because Hadlee is in the team?

You might have moved Hadlee out of the GOAT pacer tier but not everybody has. In fact, I think the majority forum opinion would be that Hadlee is in that tier, not necessarily at #1, but still in that GOAT pacer tier (as in he's a GOAT pacer contender or is in the conversation for GOAT pacer).

Somebody could start a poll on this. Not me, I'm more a lurker and wouldn't know how to but it could be along the lines of "Does Hadlee belong to the GOAT pacer tier?", with the options being:

Yes, by himself

Yes, with one other bowler

Yes, with two other bowlers

Yes, with more than two other bowlers

No, I'm with kyear2 on this

But before they vote, they should read my posts here and here, just to make sure that they vote correctly! I wouldn't want them to make a mistake!

 

[ataraxia]

If no one gets a majority, as appears to be likely for the second batsman spot, there should be a playoff between the two with the most votes imo @capt_Luffy.

 

[Thala_0710]

I don't know why you're upset. The odds are, McGrath will be picked as the third pacer and the team can still use him as an opening bowler with Hadlee at first change.

Imran's right up there with McGrath rn in the vote. If Imran of all people pips McGrath to the spot...... It's going to get tasty

 

[Johan]

I now understand why Kyear was angry, whoever was fighting for the third pacer spot had to fight Imran. Hadlee would've beaten Imran quite decisively but now McGrath may as well lose. Needed Hadlee to fend off Imran.

 

[Thala_0710]

Alas, it looks like my vote for Lara isn't going to achieve much.... Didn't expect him to make it but considering he was voted in above all the other guys being mentioned, (in the latest batsmen poll), I expected more votes for him

 

[Johan]

Alas, it looks like my vote for Lara isn't going to achieve much.... Didn't expect him to make it but considering he was voted in above all the other guys being mentioned, (in the latest batsmen poll), I expected more votes for him

The poll was before the Subshakerz rampage.

 

[Johan]

mfw when people say Hutton vs Grace should be good and Hutton ends up beating all his opponents combined.

 

[Thala_0710]

The poll was before the Subshakerz rampage.

"We all do damage. We may all leave marks upon the world. Every stumble, every mistake, leaves a scar. But every misstep is an opportunity for growth, it's in the sincere effort of restoration that we showcase our real character. Character is determined by how we repair it."

 

[Thala_0710]

Viv vs Smith should turn out to be a pretty close battle

 

[kyear2]

I think his slip fielding and batting proves to be difference in such exercises, which is why I voted for him.
I used to have Warne higher as a bowler for the longest, now I've switched to Murali but they are basically neck and neck realistically with the ball.

Yes these two are actually neck and neck.

I think his slip fielding is a tad overrated. He was "good" but no where near great far less elite. The batting though is definitely useful.

With Hobbs and Hutton likely making it, I still need an additional slip.

 

[kyear2]

I have them batting at 11, and Murali was more than decent in the outfield, quite good when he was young. So a smaller factor than it usually is for me.

Out fielding is in no way comparable to the value of someone in the cordon though.

 

[Johan]

Viv vs Smith should turn out to be a pretty close battle

Indeed

 

[kyear2]

I don't know why Kyear is making such a big deal out of McGrath not being selected yet. There's still #11 spot left, McGrath can easily be voted in for third pacer. Chill.

It's multiple things, at least 3 of them.

But it's done, no use rehashing it now.

 

[kyear2]

True, although there might be competition from a certain English early 1900s guy. (I still expect McGrath to win)

Ummmmm, there's Imran, Wasim, Steyn and a particular Indian that's still playing.

Not to add his value is as an opening bowler. That's where he was best utilized and holds the most value.

 

[kyear2]

@kyear2 you’ve replied to multiple other threads but you seem to be ignoring the basic yes/no question you were asked by multiple people in this thread. Any reason why?

Yup, asked you one. Awaiting the response.

 

[Johan]

@Thala_0710 What are the match factors of Barnes and Bumrah, genuinely curious

 

[Thala_0710]

@Thala_0710 What are the match factors of Barnes and Bumrah, genuinely curious

Match factor or the discount factors we posted recently?