All-Time England XIs - A re-run

[ataraxia]

Woolley

Mead
Thorpe

Bowes (surely!)
Gough

 

[Johan]

Leyland averages 57 in Ashes tests, dominating and making 6 hundreds against Bill O Reilly and has a good record against all sides and everywhere bar the West Indies which is just sample size lol, high reputation on stickies and under crisis. Surely, Harry Brook has not done enough to make in over all that.

 

[ataraxia]

Leyland averages 57 in Ashes tests, dominating and making 6 hundreds against Bill O Reilly and has a good record against all sides and everywhere bar the West Indies which is just sample size lol, high reputation on stickies and under crisis. Surely, Harry Brook has not done enough to make in over all that.

I didn't realise that he played 5 tests against WI and scored 37 runs at 4.62. That's nice. Anyway, Leyland was just another Paynter whose FC average of 40 is more reflective of his worth.

 

[Johan]

I didn't realise that he played 5 tests against WI and scored 37 runs at 4.62. That's nice. Anyway, Leyland was just another Paynter whose FC average of 40 is more reflective of his worth.

Should have also bothered mentioning the 52 average against Rest of the teams...Some players are naturally more successful on the bigger stage IE Barrington, McGrath (for NSW), Cowdrey and so forth, and Leyland was judged to be just that back then, a better test bat than a FC bat and his numbers reflect that. Paynter is good but 20 tests IE less than half of Maurice is kinda disqualifying to me. My comment was about Brook anyway.

 

[Bitmap]

Shrewsbury

Thorpe
Leyland

Gough
Richardson

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Shrewsbury

Graveney
Thorpe

Richardson
Frank Foster

 

[Johan]

Tate made it in long ago

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Tate made it in long ago

Thanks. I couldn't see his name as he was at 7 so my brain made me just look 8 down

 

[capt_Luffy]

Arthur Shrewsbury - 6
Frank Woolley - 1
Stuart Broad - 1

Graham Thorpe - 8
Maurice Leyland - 2
Tom Graveney - 2
CB Fry - 1
Harry Brook - 1
Phil Mead - 1
Eddie Paynter - 1

Darren Gough - 7
Tom Richardson - 6
Bill Bowes - 1
Frank Foster - 1
Angus Fraser - 1

 

[capt_Luffy]

England XI	England A	England B	England C
1. JB Hobbs	1. H Sutcliffe	1. AN Cook	1. JH Edrich
2. L Hutton*	2. G Boycott	2. GA Gooch	2. DL Amiss
3. WG Grace	3. KF Barrington	3. KS Ranjitsinhji	3. A Shrewsbury*
4. WR Hammond	4. PBH May*	4. DI Gower	4. KP Pietersen
5. JE Root	5. DS Compton	5. MC Cowdrey	5. EH Hendren
6. IT Botham	6. BA Stokes	6. ER Dexter*	6. FE Woolley
7. APE Knott+	7. LEG Ames+	7. MW Tate	7. MJ Prior+
8. JC Laker	8. H Verity	8. TG Evans+	8. W Rhodes
9. FS Trueman	9. H Larwood	9. JA Snow	9. SCJ Broad
10. JM Anderson	10. AV Bedser	10. RGD Willis	10. GA Lohmann
11. SF Barnes	11. JB Statham	11. DL Underwood	11. FH Tyson
England D
1.
2.
3.
4. GP Thorpe
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. D Gough
10.
11. T Richardson

 

[Thala_0710]

Tom Richardson - 7
Darren Gough - 7
Bill Bowes - 1
Frank Foster - 1

Fraser got a vote from me

 

[capt_Luffy]

Now please vote for:
A) One of Leyland or Graveney, those who haven't for either
B) One Opener
C) One spinner
D) The wicketkeeper

 

[capt_Luffy]

Maurice Leyland

CB Fry
Johnny Wardle
Alec Stewart+

 

[Thala_0710]

Trescothick
Swann
Russell

 

[capt_Luffy]

Amiss
Swann
Stewart

Amiss already made the previous team

 

[Thala_0710]

Amiss already made the previous team

My bad

 

[Teuton]

Leyland
Trescothick
Swann
Stewart

 

[Johan]

Marcus Trescothick.
Johnny Wardle.
Alec Stewart (ugh)

 

[ataraxia]

Graveney

Stewart
Wardle
Parks

 

[Bitmap]

Trescothick
Wardle
Stewart