I get that, but also kinda don't really. How shall I put it, even in this team players like Tim Bresnan (26 bat, 32 ball, 23m) are just making it. We always fawn over the Greats, I feel sometimes those who were kinda mid but served their countries well (Foster, DeFreitas, etc) deserved respect as well.
Agreed, players like Norman Cowans. Chris Lewis at times where class but not consistent enough, Paul Jarvis could have had a long test career if he had not gone on the rebel tour, he had genuine pace,
| England XI | England A | England B | England C |
| 1. JB Hobbs | 1. H Sutcliffe | 1. AN Cook | 1. JH Edrich |
| 2. L Hutton* | 2. G Boycott | 2. GA Gooch | 2. DL Amiss  |
| 3. WG Grace | 3. KF Barrington  | 3. KS Ranjitsinhji | 3. A Shrewsbury* |
| 4. WR Hammond | 4. PBH May* | 4. DI Gower | 4. KP Pietersen |
| 5. JE Root | 5. DS Compton | 5. MC Cowdrey | 5. EH Hendren |
| 6. IT Botham | 6. BA Stokes | 6. ER Dexter* | 6. FE Woolley |
| 7. APE Knott+ | 7. LEG Ames+ | 7. MW Tate | 7. MJ Prior+ |
| 8. JC Laker | 8. H Verity | 8. TG Evans+ | 8. W Rhodes |
| 9. FS Trueman | 9. H Larwood | 9. JA Snow | 9. SCJ Broad |
| 10. JM Anderson | 10. AV Bedser | 10. RGD Willis | 10. GA Lohmann |
| 11. SF Barnes | 11. JB Statham | 11. DL Underwood | 11. FH Tyson |
| England D | England E | England F | England G |
| 1. ME Trescothick | 1. AC Maclaren | 1. MA Atherton | 1. AJ Strauss |
| 2. C Washbrook | 2. TW Hayward | 2. MP Vaughan* | 2. R Abel |
| 3. GP Thorpe | 3. TW Graveney | 3. IJL Trott | 3. RA Smith |
| 4. CB Fry | 4. E Paynter | 4. CP Mead | 4. KS Duleepsinhji |
| 5. M Leyland | 5. FS Jackson | 5. H Brook  | 5. DR Jardine* |
| 6. AJ Stewart+* | 6. AW Greig* | 6. AG Steel | 6. BL D'Oliveira |
| 7. A Flintoff | 7. RC Russell+ | 7. JM Parks+ | 7. JM Bairstow+ |
| 8. GP Swann | 8. FR Foster | 8. WH Lockwood | 8. CR Woakes |
| 9. JH Wardle | 9. R Peel | 9. AR Caddick | 9. JH Briggs |
| 10. D Gough | 10. ARC Fraser | 10. W Voce | 10. R Appleyard |
| 11. T Richardson | 11. WE Bowes | 11. C Blythe | 11. K Farnes |
| England H | England I | England J | England K |
| 1. BC Broad | 1. BM Duckett | 1. PE Richardson | 1. C Milburn |
| 2. CAG Russell | 2. A Sandham | 2. G Pullar | 2. R Subba Row |
| 3. WJ Edrich | 3. JT Tyldesly | 3. AE Stoddart | 3. G Gunn |
| 4. AJ Lamb | 4. GE Tyldesly | 4. N Hussein* | 4. MK Gatting* |
| 5. IR Bell | 5. J Hardstaff Jr | 5. KWR Fletcher | 5. PD Collingwood |
| 6. TE Bailey | 6. G Ulyett | 6. W Bates | 6. JC Buttler+ |
| 7. GH Hirst | 7. W Barnes | 7. BT Foakes+ | 7. MM Ali |
| 8. GO Allen* | 8. AFA Lilley+ | 8. MS Nichols | 8. RWV Robbins |
| 9. RW Taylor+ | 9. FJ Titmus* | 9. CM Old | 9. M Hendrick |
| 10. MJ Hoggard | 10. DJ Brown | 10. AP Freeman | 10. PJ Loader |
| 11. GAR Lock | 11. SJ Harmison | 11. K Higgs | 11. JT Hearne |
| England L | England M | England N | England O |
| 1. JDB Robertson | 1. CF Walter | 1. BW Luckhurst | 1. RT Robinson |
| 2. PF Warner | 2. RW Barber | 2. CJ Barnett | 2. G Fowler |
| 3. DS Sheppard | 3. MA Butcher | 3. RES Wyatt | 3. RT Simpson |
| 4. PH Parfitt | 4. MH Denness* | 4. RH Spooner | 4. MJK Smith |
| 5. GA Hick | 5. RE Foster | 5. DW Randall | 5. GS Ballance |
| 6. JL Smith+ | 6. GL Jessop | 6. OJD Pope+ | 6. FR Brown* |
| 7. JWHT Douglas* | 7. DA Allen | 7. R Illingworth* | 7. GO Jones+ |
| 8. DG Cork | 8. JT Murray+ | 8. BR Knight | 8. JN Crawford |
| 9. OE Robinson | 9. GR Dilley | 9. JC White | 9. AS Kennedy |
| 10. JK Lever | 10. SP Jones | 10. GG Arnold | 10. M Wood |
| 11. R Tattersall | 11. HL Jackson | 11. A Shaw | 11. RJ Sidebottom |
| England P | England Q | England R | |
| 1. Z Crawley | 1. CJ Tavaré | 1. D Lloyd | |
| 2. RG Barlow | 2. AH Bakewell | 2. RJ Burns | |
| 3. DS Steele | 3. PJ Sharpe | 3. CT Radley | |
| 4. WW Read* | 4. JC Crawley | 4. W Gunn* | |
| 5. AJ Watkins | 5. MR Ramprakash | 5. JW Hearne | |
| 6. RA Woolmer | 6. DB Close* | 6. LC Braund | |
| 7. G Miller | 7. CMW Read+ | 7. JS Foster+ | |
| 8. AAP Atkinson | 8. G Geary | 8. TT Bresnan | |
| 9. GH Duckworth+ | 9. JC Archer | 9. PAJ DeFreitas | |
| 10. ST Finn | 10. E Peate | 10. MJ Leach | |
| 11. DW Headley | 11. CT Tremlett | 11. NAT Foster |
Young Jack is better than half of the players here.
| England XI | England A | England B | England C | England D |
| 1. Jack Hobbs | 1. Herbert Sutcliffe | 1. Alaistar Cook | 1. John Edrich | 1. Marcus Trescothick |
| 2. Len Hutton* | 2. Geoff Boycott | 2. Graham Gooch | 2. Dennis Amiss | 2. Cyril Washbrook |
| 3. WG Grace | 3. Ken Barrington | 3. KS Ranjitsinhji | 3. Arthur Shrewsbury* | 3. Graham Thorpe |
| 4. Wally Hammond | 4. Peter May* | 4. David Gower | 4. Kevin Pietersen | 4. CB Fry |
| 5. Joe Root | 5. Denis Compton | 5. Colin Cowdrey | 5. Patsy Hendren | 5. Maurice Leyland |
| 6. Ian Botham | 6. Ben Stokes | 6. Ted Dexter* | 6. Frank Woolley | 6. Alec Stewart+* |
| 7. Allan Knott+ | 7. Les Ames+ | 7. Maurice Tate | 7. Matt Prior+ | 7. Andrew Flintoff |
| 8. Jim Laker | 8. Hedley Verity | 8. Godfrey Evans+ | 8. Wilfred Rhodes | 8. Graeme Swann |
| 9. Fred Trueman | 9. Harold Larwood | 9. John Snow | 9. Stuart Broad | 9. Johnny Wardle |
| 10. James Anderson | 10. Alec Bedser | 10. Bob Willis | 10. George Lohmann | 10. Darren Gough |
| 11. Sydney Barnes | 11. Brian Statham | 11. Derek Underwood | 11. Frank Tyson | 11. Tom Richardson |
| England E | England F | England G | England H | England I |
| 1. Archie Maclaren | 1. Mike Atherton | 1. Andrew Strauss | 1. Chris Broad | 1. Ben Duckett |
| 2. Tom Hayward | 2. Michael Vaughan* | 2. Bobby Abel | 2. Jack Russell Sr | 2. Andy Sandham |
| 3. Tom Graveney | 3. Jonathan Trott | 3. Robin Smith | 3. Bill Edrich | 3. Johnny Tyldesly |
| 4. Eddie Paynter | 4. Phil Mead | 4. KS Duleepsinhji | 4. Allan Lamb | 4. Ernest Tyldesly |
| 5. Stanley Jackson | 5. Harry Brook | 5. Douglas Jardine* | 5. Ian Bell | 5. Joe Hardstaff Jr |
| 6. Tony Greig* | 6. Allan Steel | 6. Basil D'Oliveira | 6. Trevor Bailey | 6. George Ulyett |
| 7. Jack Russell+ | 7. Jim Parks Jr+ | 7. Jonny Bairstow+ | 7. George Hirst | 7. Billy Barnes |
| 8. Frank Foster | 8. Bill Lockwood | 8. Chris Woakes | 8. Gubby Allen* | 8. Dick Lilley+ |
| 9. Bobby Peel | 9. Bill Voce | 9. Johnny Briggs | 9. Bob Taylor+ | 9. Fred Titmus* |
| 10. Angus Fraser | 10. Andy Caddick | 10. Bob Appleyard | 10. Tony Lock | 10. David Brown |
| 11. Bill Bowes | 11. Colin Blythe | 11. Ken Farnes | 11. Matthew Hoggard | 11. Steve Harmison |
| England J | England K | England L | England M | England N |
| 1. Peter Richardson | 1. Colin Milburn | 1. Jack Robertson | 1. Cyril Walters | 1. Brian Luckhurst |
| 2. Geoff Pullar | 2. Raman Subba Row | 2. Plum Warner | 2. Bob Barber | 2. Charlie Barnett |
| 3. Andrew Stoddart | 3. George Gunn | 3. David Sheppard | 3. Mark Butcher | 3. Bob Wyatt |
| 4. Nassir Hussain* | 4. Mike Gatting* | 4. Peter Parfitt | 4. Mike Denness* | 4. Reggie Spooner |
| 5. Keith Fletcher | 5. Paul Collingwood | 5. Graeme Hick | 5. Tip Foster | 5. Derek Randall |
| 6. Ben Foakes+ | 6. Jos Buttler+ | 6. Jamie Smith+ | 6. Gilbert Jessop | 6. Ollie Pope+ |
| 7. Billy Bates | 7. Moeen Ali | 7. Johnny Douglas* | 7. David Allen | 7. Ray Illingworth* |
| 8. Stan Nichols | 8. Walter Robbins | 8. Dominic Cork | 8. John Murray+ | 8. Barry Knight |
| 9. Chris Old | 9. Mike Hendrick | 9. Ollie Robinson | 9. Graham Dilley | 9. Jack White |
| 10. Tich Freeman | 10. Peter Loader | 10. John Lever | 10. Simon Jones | 10. Geoff Arnold |
| 11. Ken Higgs | 11. Jack Hearne | 11. Roy Tattersall | 11. Les Jackson | 11. Alfred Shaw |
| England O | England P | England Q | England R | |
| 1. Tim Robinson | 1. Zak Crawley | 1. Chris Tavaré | 1. David Lloyd | |
| 2. Graeme Fowler | 2. Dick Barlow | 2. Fred Bakewell | 2. Rory Burns | |
| 3. Reg Simpson | 3. David Steele | 3. Phil Sharpe | 3. Clive Radley | |
| 4. Mike Smith | 4. Walter Read* | 4. John Crawley | 4. Billy Gunn* | |
| 5. Gary Ballance | 5. Allan Watkins | 5. Mark Ramprakash | 5. 'Young Jack' Hearne | |
| 6. Freddie Brown* | 6. Bob Woolmer | 6. Brian Close* | 6. Len Braund | |
| 7. Geraint Jones+ | 7. Geoff Miller | 7. Chris Read+ | 7. James Foster+ | |
| 8. Jack Crawford | 8. Gus Atkinson | 8. George Geary | 8. Tim Bresnan | |
| 9. Alex Kennedy | 9. George Duckworth+ | 9. Jofra Archer | 9. Phil DeFreitas | |
| 10. Mark Wood | 10. Steven Finn | 10. Ted Peate | 10. Jack Leach | |
| 11. Ryan Sidebottom | 11. Dean Headley | 11. Chris Tremlett | 11. Neil Foster |
