Lillian Thomson
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The early signs are for a bit of an Indian summer for the Oval area for the next week or so. It'll still be a bit chilly for the spectators and the sunset will start around 6pm, but it's looking dry.
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5th Test at The Oval, London
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aussie tragic
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So sorry England. Smith averages 144.00 at the oval with scores of 138*, 7, 143.
Lillian Thomson
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Bradman was averaging about 185 but still got a duck in his final innings.
Adders
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So there is a 1 in 3 chance he'll score less than 10.........I'll take that.
aussie tragic
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Yeah but this is Smith we're talking about where his only 'fail' this series was 82 off 90 odd balls when going for it. Here he can take his time and bat for 2 days
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It will be interesting to see the approach England takes for this match. A very short turn around so I'm not sure whether Stokes will be able to bowl. Presumably Overton did enough to keep his spot, and certainly the openers and Root are secure. Do they give any or all of Roy, Bairstow and Buttler the last match, or do they make some changes with a view to the future given there's slightly less pressure now the Ashes are not on the line (albeit they want to level the series, of course).
It's also a very short turn around for our bowlers, particularly Cummins who showed the first signs of fatigue late yesterday, although he was still magnificent. Do they rest him to ensure his home summer? And do they stick with Starc, who may be better for the run and wasn't terrible but isn't as unerringly accurate as the others in the squad?
The Oval used to be quite fast and bouncy a few years back. If that's the case it may favour Starc, especially if it's dry. I seem to remember there being a bit of reverse there from time to time as well.
It's also a very short turn around for our bowlers, particularly Cummins who showed the first signs of fatigue late yesterday, although he was still magnificent. Do they rest him to ensure his home summer? And do they stick with Starc, who may be better for the run and wasn't terrible but isn't as unerringly accurate as the others in the squad?
The Oval used to be quite fast and bouncy a few years back. If that's the case it may favour Starc, especially if it's dry. I seem to remember there being a bit of reverse there from time to time as well.
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I'd pick Starc for The Oval, but given the Ashes has already been retained I think I'm probably somewhat in favour of resting Cummins given how short the turnaround is. I think even though we won the opener situation has to change.
Roy probably the only Pom I can realistically see dropped. But even he made starts so I could also see him be retained.
the big bambino
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I hope they don't rest Cummins ... which means I might have to - gulp - consider Marsh.
Edit (and hopefully) if the Oval is true and fastish then it might not be too bad to play Marsh. Heads up anyone on how the Oval plays these days?
Edit (and hopefully) if the Oval is true and fastish then it might not be too bad to play Marsh. Heads up anyone on how the Oval plays these days?
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the big bambino
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Would anyone think Wade could do any worse than Bancroft/Warner/ Harris as an opener?
Starfighter
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We haven't yet won the series, resting our best bowler would be absolutely stupid. If we hadn't stuffed up at Headingley and had actually closed the thing out then I'd consider it.
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Yeah you're probably right. I just worry about the risk of him breaking down rather than general fatigue.
If there's someone who's fatigued to the point of affecting their own performances it's Lyon (though admittedly the finger was a problem there), but he can't be rested as there's no-one else to cover for him in the squad.
If there's someone who's fatigued to the point of affecting their own performances it's Lyon (though admittedly the finger was a problem there), but he can't be rested as there's no-one else to cover for him in the squad.
Adders
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As GIMH pointed out earlier, the Aussies are in the same place ENG where in 10/11. Would have been devastating for us to have lost the Sydney test even though we would have still taken the ashes home. The Aussies will be up for the Oval just as much as this last test.
Conversly if Eng can win it yeah the Aussies have got the urn, but 80% of the bragging rights are gone and it will surely feel a bit hollow. I like this scenario a lot more.
Conversly if Eng can win it yeah the Aussies have got the urn, but 80% of the bragging rights are gone and it will surely feel a bit hollow. I like this scenario a lot more.
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Only in the sense of "it's hard to do worse". I cannot see that working at all, though.
TheJediBrah
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In Australia, and most places, I think Wade could do a fine job as opener. Not sure about in England though.
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Yeah but that’s no good if he breaks down. I’m not saying to rest him because he needs a snooze, I’m talking in terms of managing potential stress fracture type injuries. They test for those pretty stringently these days anyway I suppose, so they’ll know if he’s at risk. If he is I wouldn’t play him.