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4th Test (Old Trafford, Manchester) - 23rd to 27th of July
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Joe Root will still average 50+ after The Ashes even if he doesn't score another run from now until then. Wasn't that something you were certain wouldn't happen @PlayerComparisons
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
They were ranked 1 in Tests in the early 2010s though
OverratedSanity
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How is that even mathematically possible
ImpatientLime
International Regular
really? cause they lost away to australia and look like they may lose away to england? two very difficult places to tour. recent track record in australia is obviously very good but 3 on the bounce there is unheard of and they haven't won in england since 2007?
only the NZ series in 2024 was really 'unforgivable'.
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
I changed my opinion recently tbf. Well done to him. I rate him as an ATG. The Aus posters are the ones who genuinely think he’s mediocre though.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
This is hard to watch. The one thing that gets my goat with both Rohit and now, Gill (and to an extent, Virat before that) is how they waste some of the bowling resources they have. The whole ****ing point of having 6 bowlers is to use all of them when the main guys are having a bad day. The fact that Shardul did not bowl till 40+ overs at Leeds in the first innings and Washy (fresh off a 4fer last time he bowled) did not bowl till 60+ overs in this innings shows, no matter how many options you have, if the captain has no idea how to use them, they are always wasted.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
It's not, I ****ed up the numbers
Wouldn't pay too much attention to rankings, to be honest. They were pretty poor and let games drift away overseas, and England crushed them at home in 2012
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
Ponting decided to show up to watch his run tally get passed
on a serious note, he's a big upgrade over the likes of Ian Ward in the comm box.
Still, I think a team of India's quality can do much better than they have on those "difficult places to tour". If you look at how much talent they have, they could easily make almost 3-4 good teams. But as Michael Vaughan (whom I don't always agree with) said after their WTC final defeat 2 years back, India have underachieved.
I must ask, does Gill even know Sundar and Jadeja exist? The time to bowl Sundar was at the last session of yesterday. I mean, he was the best bowler for India at Lords and yet he's just in the field? Garbage stuff.
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Son Of Coco
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'Mediocre' is a bit harsh.
I bumped him up to 'reasonably decent' after he got hit on the dick 6 times out here during the Ashes in 21/22. It was the height of physical comedy.
ImpatientLime
International Regular
i think too many people buy into this idea india could put out 3-4 test teams. its just not true.
how many times i've seen people refer to them on this tour as a 'young team', 'new team' etc. in white ball i think the argument stands up but this test alone shows its nonsense with thakur and kamboj stinking the place out. imagine the second/third team bowlers behind these lads....
What a shambolic, rubbish, abysmal performance by India. Reminds me of the days they would easily let the match drift away. Gill makes Nohit look like Ponting with his decisions in the field. And this bowling is even worse than in Headingley.
On the other hand, congratulations to Joe Root for going past the Wall (that too against India) and Kallis to be the 3rd largest run scorer. Never doubted your class, Rooty. Ponting and Sachin to come.
On the other hand, congratulations to Joe Root for going past the Wall (that too against India) and Kallis to be the 3rd largest run scorer. Never doubted your class, Rooty. Ponting and Sachin to come.
They used the same excuse of the team being in a "developing phase" when they failed on their England tour in 2018. Such a pathetic reason to give, something not even Sri Lanka or Zimbabwe use to hide behind. These guys just don't know how to think. Even in earlier years, their fast bowling was rock solid, but the tail would wag and their batting failed in overseas conditions barring Australia. India have been an overhyped team for quite a while. And I say this as an Indian fan.
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Captain
Big assumption with the way they’re batting!
Arachnödouche2.0
State Vice-Captain
Gill to reignite his hunt for Bradman's tally in the second innings.
I'm just curious, are the conditions for batting at OT not as bad as they seem? I heard Zak Crawley on TMS saying that the pitch will likely deteriorate for the 3rd and 4th innings, but looking at the current proceedings, I'm not so sure. England may well bat through today and the 1st session of tomorrow, and leave India to try and save the match for Day 4/5 (highly unlikely, and no rain is in sight).