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    Split these cricketers into tiers

    Top ATG tier( Tier 1): Sobers Imran Hadlee Kallis Low ATG tier( Tier 2): Miller Pollock Botham Legend tier( Tier 3): Kapil( should be considered Low-ATG also if WC win is counted as a leader) Ashwin Jadeja Great tier( also rewarded for captaincy):- Stokes( should go above Jaddu and Ash if WC...
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    Peak Starc with pink ball vs pre back injury Waqar with reverse swing

    Getting closer.
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    he had back spasm so he missed the 1st test. Played the 2nd test but that was a seamer paradise. SA got bowled out at 55...
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    2021 was when Jadeja was injured for full series. India played Ash at 7, Shardul at 8 and three more pacers. Usually they play Ash at 8 when they play three pacers but in this series, India would have wanted Jadeja at 7 but due to injury, had to contend with 4 pacers + Ashwin. 2018 was long...
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    Yeah but he didn’t ended with that high ceiling. He arguably had the biggest of declines. Indian fans say Kapil had a much higher ceiling with bat and should have averaged a lot more instead of having SR of 80+. But end of the day, it is your output to team that matters.
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    I won’t agree with that and it is because Botham had Willis to support. Kapil had none supporting him and he was lone warrior with the bowl. Moreover, Kapil never missed test matches, it is amazing how he played 135 tests in 15 years of his career. Hadlee and Imran played 85 odd tests. The WI...
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    he was injured so they selected Ashwin. Otherwise Jaddu would have been selected.
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    Peak Starc with pink ball vs pre back injury Waqar with reverse swing

    Not yet. But I like it that you keep coming up with more names. :)
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    Actually, one of the major reasons why I would rate a Kohli or Pujara or Rahul higher than their career averages is due to conditions being very bowling friendly at home and SA both for them. The Indian players of this era suffered a bit due to bowling friendly conditions. So, they get a bit of...
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    Peak Starc with pink ball vs pre back injury Waqar with reverse swing

    Not them either.
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    Peak Starc with pink ball vs pre back injury Waqar with reverse swing

    Those who get the job done with the red ball and no use of bottle caps.
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    Ranking them in tests:- Batting Botham Jadeja Kapil Flintoff Bowling Kapil( due to WI) Botham Jadeja Flintoff overall - Botham > Kapil > Jadeja > Flintoff
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    Peak Starc with pink ball vs pre back injury Waqar with reverse swing

    Not a fan of either.
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    Is Waqar Younis an ATG test bowler?

    A lower tier ATG for me. There hasn’t been many ATGs in pace department to come from Asia so you have to give him some leeway.
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    How does Ravindra Jadeja compare with Kapil Dev and Ian Botham ( Tests)

    As a batter, I put him above Kapil and just below Botham. Hard to put him above or at same level as Botham because Botham batted at 5 and 6 for a large part of his career and hit many tons. In bowling, I view him in the same way as a Makhaya Ntini, Vernon Philander and maybe even Stuart Broad(...
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    Kapil/Jadeja vs Botham/Flintoff

    He was injured in a 3 test series there which Ashwin played and contributed with 30s and 40s. Those pitches had nothing for spinners.
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    Better Batsman : Jadeja vs Imran

    Jadeja seems to have struggled with bat on proper turning pitches where games are usually 200-220 shootout. In recent times, his home average has taken a toll due to the pitches. Otherwise, he is capable of averaging 40 at home with bat.
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    Better Batsman : Jadeja vs Imran

    This 500+ series puts him above Imran. Imran’s batting stats are highly inflated due to not outs which is also the case with Jadeja but Jadeja has more performances away from home with bat than Imran. imran away avg with bat is 33(or 31). Jadeja is at 38.
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    Morne Morkel vs Mohammed Shami

    Shami is better. Shami is arguably the greatest World Cup bowler also.
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    Jasprit Bumrah vs Rahul Dravid vs Kapil Dev

    Tests :- Dravid/ Bumrah( close probably Dravid for now) Kapil Jadeja Ashwin This will be my ranking. Kapil was a greater white ball player than test player but still a lower tier ATG one.

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