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    All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

    Viv was biased in favour of bowlers with a double L in their names and resented Hadlee for having practically stolen his last name. It's not Richard Hadlee who should be questioned here, it's Viv Richards. He barely averaged (batting) 50 in Test cricket (50.23) and needed 20 runs in his last...
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    Which cricketers go on each countries Mount Rushmore?

    The first person who should be put on NZ cricket's Mount Rushmore is, of course, Sir Richard Hadlee because he is easily our greatest cricketer. The second person should be Hadlee's father, Walter, who was a capable cricketer in his own right as well as being a very influential administrator...
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    Which cricketers go on each countries Mount Rushmore?

    Subsz, in my youth I followed a number of sports quite closely, from about 1974 (Ali vs. Foreman) to about 1998 (Jordan's second three-peat) but have followed sport only casually since, even NZ sport. @capt_Luffy knows far more about NZ cricket than I do! I have always been drawn mainly to the...
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    Ranks these rivals

    5C2 = 5!/(2! x 3!) = (5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1)/(2 x 1 x 3 x 2 x 1) = 10 = 4 + 3 + 2 + 1, the number of combinations of the 5 pairs of cricketers taken 2 pairs at a time Edit: then I think ataraxia has ordered the pairs "from closest to least".
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    Crowe/Hadlee vs Ponting/McGrath

    Ponting RPI - Crowe RPI = 5 Crowe RPI - Hadlee RPI = 18.3 Hadlee RPI - McGrath RPI = 18.7 Ponting is a clearly better batsman than Crowe who's a much better batsman than Hadlee who's a much better batsman than McGrath. Ponting = 9/10 Crowe = 8/10 Hadlee = 4.5/10 McGrath = 1/10 Ponting +...
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    Crowe/Hadlee vs Ponting/McGrath

    I see a Change vote button above. How can I use it to change all of the votes for Ponting and McGrath over to Crowe and Hadlee?
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    Crowe/Hadlee vs Ponting/McGrath

    Thinking about Hadlee too much!
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    Crowe/Hadlee vs Ponting/McGrath

    RPI Hadlee = 23.3 RPI Crowe = 41.6 sum = 64.9 RPI Ponting = 46.6 RPI McGrath = 4.6 sum = 51.2
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    Crowe/Hadlee vs Ponting/McGrath

    I would have thought that the better duo was clearly (Martin) Crowe and (Richard) Hadlee. The bowling is about equal, Hadlee more proven in an average Test team. Ponting obviously better with the bat than Crowe but adding on Hadlee's runs and next to nothing from McGrath, surely it must be the...
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    All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

    Maybe I should pull a Winston Peters and become a kingmaker? Nah, I think I'll refrain. Best to leave it to the regulars!
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    All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

    I don't know why you're upset. The odds are, McGrath will be picked as the third pacer and the team can still use him as an opening bowler with Hadlee at first change. Would you be happy then or still unhappy because Hadlee is in the team? You might have moved Hadlee out of the GOAT pacer tier...
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    All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

    The stats for McGrath, Marshall and Hadlee as non-opening bowlers might not mean much as they might be when the bowlers were not prime or when the wicket was lively or dead, etc. but anyway: McGrath didn't do a lot of bowling as a non-opening bowler (bowling positions 3-5) and wasn't all that...
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    Jasprit Bumrah vs Dennis Lillee

    I discovered this a few months ago, something you probably already know, and was shocked: Walsh was superhuman over the last 11 1/2 months of his Test career. He played EIGHTEEN Test matches, took 84 wickets (WPM = 4.67) at an average of 20.25 while bowling a massive 151 BPI:
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    All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

    McGrath should not be selected as the first change pacer as he has a poor and unproven record there: With just six bowling innings, it would be like selecting Barry Richards as an opener when he had just seven batting innings, an utterly insane option given the paucity of real-world data to...
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    Jasprit Bumrah vs Dennis Lillee

    His name never showed up in the summary! I did notice later when I opened up your post that he had also "died"!
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    Jasprit Bumrah vs Dennis Lillee

    FFS, Coronis. You gave me a fright. I found your post in truncated form as part of Search results and thought for a second that Hadlee had died. Tremendous work, BTW!
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    Jasprit Bumrah vs Joel Garner

    Excellent acknowledgement: Eight POTS awards (fourth-equal), knighted while still playing (although not officially conferred): Excellent peer review: Possibly not so much by lesser cricketers but by the greatest of the great? - yes: Bradman (greatest batsman ever, greatest cricketer ever)...
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    Jasprit Bumrah vs Joel Garner

    This is a very long post but if you want to know the truth about Hadlee, you should read it, CAREFULLY, as should other forum members. At the very least, it's extremely informative and for some, it might prove to be enlightening. You've harboured doubts about Hadlee for a very long time (over 11...
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    Official Jasprit Bumrah fanboying thread

    Randomfan, I thought I would elaborate further on the bolded text within your quoted post which might otherwise be misconstrued. Bumrah's record against WI/BD/SL: Bumrah's record with WI/BD/SL removed: (I think when you first submitted your post, the figures might have been 215 at 19.50...
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    Who are the top 5 test cricketers of the 1970s and 1980s?

    I've explained why! Here! (first post of this page) - because Botham's bowling sucked for a very long time. Now, if you're talking about early Botham, that's a different matter. I suspect he would have had greater POSITIVE impact then than just about anybody! from...

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