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    Top ten greatest bowlers and batsmen of all time

    This topic always intrigues me too. I am as guilty of over-rating earlier eras as anyone but I struggle a bit with Trumper's elevation to ATG status when no-one seriously considers Hill or Bardsley similarly. If you're going to put Trumper in the Australian first xi, then don't you have to put...
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    The greatest fielders from each nation

    May surprise some folk who only remember him as a fairly elderly player, but Clive Lloyd was by all accounts an amazing cover fielder in his earlier days. One I remember is Border at short-cover or short-midwicket back when those were fashionable "second of two catchers in the first 15 overs"...
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    *Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand 2016/2017

    Good to see Reiffel still hates minnows...
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    *Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand 2016/2017

    I appreciate that scoring runs means the Bangladeshis have to bat for a shorter time to be safe, so just stonewalling would have added to the pressure on them.... but to lose two batsman to run-outs (I know, one was injured not actually out, but if the ball had hit the stumps it would have been...
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    Quickest bowlers of all-time by nation

    I thought the back foot had to land behind the crease the wicket is on, whatever that's called. So for most bowlers there was not much difference to today as their front foot would have been landing around the batting crease. But the draggers could get another half yard at least
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    Put these five players in order

    Hard to compare Dujon and Kirmani - one was spectactular 25m behind the stumps, one was brilliant 1m behind them...
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    Quickest bowlers of all-time by nation

    Serious question, how fast was Heath Davis? ' Young pre-injury Ian Bishop was decidedly rapid on his day, but I'd say Patterson was the quickest West Indian I saw. Gooch (I think) thought so too.
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    *Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand 2016/2017

    Someone once quoted : "an all-rounder in physique only"
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Under/over 35 1. Sherwin Campbell 2. Geoff Marsh 3. Bevan Congdon 4. Johnny Tyldesley 5. Derek Randall 6.Dattu Phadkar 7. Alan Knott * 8. Paul Strang 9. John Emburey 10. Venkatesh Prasad 11. Devon Malcolm
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    ***Official*** Sri Lanka in South Africa 2016/2017

    Seriously, how many Sri Lankan batsmen have also been capable keepers / how many keepers ended up just as batsmen... Chandimal, Perera, Mendis, Silva can play as either in the current squad. Before that, Sangakkara obviously, Dilshan, Tillakaratne... Any others? (I want to say Gurusinha, but...
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    Wastemen etc

    In an alternate universe Young might have been remembered as one of NZ's very best keeper-batsman rather than just another in a very long line of sub-standard kiwi opening batsmen...
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    *Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand 2016/2017

    That was disappointing - was hoping Bangladesh would put up a better fight. I thought after they beat England in the World Cup in Australia that they might have turned a corner, but it seems they're still only competitive in home conditions.
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    Who is more likely to win a test match with this scoreline?

    deleted - managed to double post somehow...
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    Who is more likely to win a test match with this scoreline?

    Team B most of the time - your first 5 wickets would normally score more than 60% of the runs.. But - if it's Gilchrist or de Kock coming in at 7, the odds must change. - if this is against South Africa circa 1997 they have McMillan, Klusener, Richardson and Symcox still to come... - if...
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    Your most gloomiest/disappointing moments as a cricket fan

    Mine would be games I watched at the ground : - watching Jimmy Adams and Junior Murray bat NZ into the ground in 1995 I think it was. From a kiwi fan perspective the double collapses to Courtney Walsh later in the same match on a Basin road under blazing sunshine were equally bad, but seeing...
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    Worst tails ever

    In Simon Doull's first test (Zimbabwe 1992-93) 7-11 were D Patel, Su'a, Doull, Haslam, Watson. Doull became a decent no.9 but back then he was a 10 and a half at best.... The kiwi selectors saw the error of their ways... come Doull's 2nd test match (Australia at Hobart), and the 8-11 were...
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    Players who were indisputably the best of their time

    Getting back to the original question, a name that sprang to my mind was Botham, for the period 77-83. Averaged about 21 with the ball and nearly 40 with the bat. Can someone dig out Imran's stats for the period when Botham was at his peak? Was Jim Laker a cut above the likes of Benaud, Lock...
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    ***Official*** Australia in South Africa + South Africa in Australia 2016/17

    What's the point of HotSpot if a sound that big makes no mark?
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    **Official** England in Bangladesh 2016

    Mushy's keeping is a worry - that stumping off Rashid 35 runs ago is looking a bit crucial, never mind the other two drops. Should he not just bat at 4, and let Bangladesh pick their best keeper, who can bat about 9....
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    **Official** England in Bangladesh 2016

    Go to youtube and type "GTV", pick GTV live, there it is...

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