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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    It does seem wrong. I feel Dev will still make Top Ten in the poll while I can't see too many of those named reaching that level.
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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    @Burgey I know you're a fan of Cummins and Border but rating them highly as all-rounders is stretching it a bit. Cummins, although he's improved in recent series, averages just 17.31 with the bat while Border, in 156 games, took just 39 wicket (0.25 WPM) at a rather expensive 39.10 You're...
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    Muttiah Muralitharan vs Fred Trueman

    A ridiculous comparison.
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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    Correct. I had him dismissed 12 times in 2 series when it was only 11, My error. (Not my first ... or last)
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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    Imran v West Indies in the 80s Home (7 Tests) 319 runs @ 26.58 Away (3 Tests) 90 runs @ 22.50
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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    I fully agree. having just 0.41 WPM hardly qualifies him as a Test All Rounder. After all, we are judging on performances in Tests otherwise the likes of Clive Rice would be highly rated.
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    2025 Ranking of All Rounders Poll

    Kallis Botham S.Pollock
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    2025 Ranking of All Rounders Poll

    With 26 voters, we have a clear top two for our poll. Our first 3 places are established. Sobers 71 Imran 41 Miller 19 Kallis 16 Grace 5 Cummins 2 Botham 2 Voting is now open for positions 4 - 6 All Rounders Poll 5 for 10 in Tests Runs Ave 100s...
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    WTC 2025 Final : Qualifying scenario

    Did SA play Australia, England or India to gain qualification for the WTC? If not (and I think I know the answer) the whole thing is a farce.
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    2025 Ranking of All Rounders Poll

    Test all-rounders with no minimum requirement
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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    @shortpitched713 suggested (in the voting) that there won't be much after the first 15. The ATGs will be light on, but I believe there may be enough contenders for the list to be up to 50.
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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    If we are going to cherry pick sections of a career, Ian Botham (1978-1984) would be in the top 3.
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    All Rounders Poll - Discussion

    I've lodged my votes for the top 3 all rounders in Test Cricket. Some may be taken aback with the fact I have overlooked Imran. He was an excellent bowler and a fine batsman. However, these skills weren't always on display in the same era. Others may want to define an all-rounder. There is...
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    2025 Ranking of All Rounders Poll

    In 2022 and again in 2024 we had polls for both Test Batsmen and Test Bowlers. There have been frequent posts comparing various all-rounders but none, to my knowledge, ranking the All Rounders. Members are asked to vote, on a 3, 2, 1 basis their top All Rounders at each stage. When a top 3 have...
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    Alan Davidson vs Wasim Akram

    Despite Davidson having a better average (20.53 v 23.62) and a superior WPM (4.23 v 3.98) CW members rate him well below Wasim Akram in the 2022 Bowlers poll (19th v 11th and 8th v 16th with spinners removed). I understand the majority going for Akram but I believe their skill levels and...
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    Does Jadeja make your ATG Indian XI?

    Further to my initial comments re Jadeja in SENA nations, his figures wouldn't have him in many Second XI teams. 1067 runs @ 28.83 56 wickets @ 38.46
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    Does Jadeja make your ATG Indian XI?

    The answer is Jadeja ... on home turf (2023r @ 37.46; 238w @ 20.64) Away from home he is far less impressive (1362r @ 31.95; 85w @ 33.75) and remove his other SC stats and he slips even further (1257r @ 30.65; 72w @ 34.65). An ATG Indian XI can't be selected to play exclusively on Indian soil.
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    Does Jadeja make your ATG Indian XI?

    Jadeja possibly the most overrated player on CW. Kumble and Ashwin better spinners on the SC. What's Jadeja done of note in SENA?
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    **Official** 5th Test at Sydney, 3-7 Jan 2025

    One innings makes Man of the Series? Surely you jest.
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    Draft Game - Fantasy Cricket 2025

    The field is off and running and I'm still stuck in the starting gates (0).

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