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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Holding was one of the greats, I can't imagine a West Indies XI without him. As for Garner, he edges it compared to AMbrose for me. Garner had more about his bowling, seemed to be more lethal in his spells, while AMbrose was consistency personified. I guessi ts based on what one likes. Both...
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    My Pakistan Test XI: 1. S. Anwar 2. H. Muhammad 3. Y. Khan 4. J. Miandad 5. M. Yousuf 6. I. Ul Haq 7. I. Khan c 8. W. Akram 9. W. Bari wk 10. A. Qadir 11. W. Younis 12th man Zaheer Abbas. A fine batsman to watch but Younis was the better run getter in a lesser side.
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    Is AB de Villiers an ATG?

    I think we both agree ABD would make a SA all time XI or be close to it. Ah, another mind block. The issue with typing quickly, I left out Marshall and Viv. And no, I do not think Kallis, Steyn and many other names are all time greats. As I said, I personally reserve that term to the truly...
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    Is AB de Villiers an ATG?

    Yes I do, as I think most would. The Sky panel last year unanimously voted Akram as the greatest fast bowler of them all, above McGrath. If you listen to the likes of Lara, ABD and many others talk, they all say the same about him. Personally, having seen Akram live in four tests and McGrath...
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Steyn would be 13th man for me. I can't really make a WI team without their greatest captain and a damn fine batsman too. A handful of other opening options for England but Cook at his best was dogged, had an eye for big scores and a sound technique. Hayden is the perfect option as he...
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    Australian Test Selection Thread 2017 - 2018

    A coach does more than simply select a side to be labelled a coach.
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    Boxing thread

    Whyte would be a better opponent than someone like Molina or the Stiverne rematch, so the whole quality argument doesn't really apply to Mr Wilder.
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    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Very interesting thread and just to get started myself, I'd like to name my all time XIs for some of the top sides, sides I believe to the best at least. England All Time Test XI - 1. J. Hobbs 2. A. Cook 3. W. Hammond 4. K. Barrington 5. D. Gower 6. K. Pietersen 7. I. Botham 8. A. Knott wk...
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    Stokes Arrested

    Well sentencing is the whole point isn't it?
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    Your XI?

    That is not a very good thing to go off.
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    King of the Asian Keeper-Bats

    Oh yes, so I guess we discount all of Gilchrist's wickets because he was keeping to one of the best bowling line ups ever. Might as well forget Boucher ever existed and discount every time Bari took a wicket off Nawaz or Imran.
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    King of the Asian Keeper-Bats

    What has that got to do with his overall career performances? Someone like Dhoni, India's most iconic cricketer since Tendulkar, ended his career on a 5 match losing streak. Lara, arguably a top 5 all time West Indian ended his career with egg on his face and dismemberment in a home world cup...
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    Is AB de Villiers an ATG?

    I had a mind block and left out Marshall. As for the others, I certainly do not think so. McGrath, Hadlee and Sangakkara probably have the best shout though.
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    Is AB de Villiers an ATG?

    would he be in a SA all time XI? Most definitely but that does not mean he is an all time great overall.
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    Road to the 2017-18 Ashes in Australia

    Why is Curran picked over international Plunkett (England's second best ODI bowler) and THE young bowler in county cricket in Porter? The latter in particular is wiser, smarter and has the numbers. The old county mindset and biases must change and Essex should no longer be looked down upon...
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    Stokes Arrested

    Stokes put his foot in it, although it seems he was trying two protect two other men. From the video, it is clear he used excessive force (along with Hales). If the protection story is true then he may still face charges but they will not be so bad. In terms of his cricket, I believe it is...
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    Your XI?

    Good to see the above poster kept within the parameters of the BBCs selection rules. Miller could easily have joined my team if I was allowed two all rounders. Surprised Tyson would get a call above some of the other faster men listed.
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    King of the Asian Keeper-Bats

    If you are talking to me, I do not see nay reason why you are laughing. Only a handful of great keepers have a better than 2 dismissals per innings ratio. In terms of Asian keepers with completed test careers, there are none so far as I know. Add to that a number of important innings, across...
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    Is AB de Villiers an ATG?

    ATG is term many of the youngsters love using, I believe it stands for all time great. In my opinion, the true great cricketers number some 20, maybe 30. In my life time, I have only 10 at most: Imran Khan Wasim Akram Shane Warne Ricky Ponting Sachin Tendulkar Adam Gilchrist Muttiah...
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    Best Asian Test Team of All Time

    I rate Sunny as great as the other I mentioned, to say one is comprehensively better than the others is utter bollocks quite frankly and reeks of nothing more than national bias. Gavaskar was nowhere near the counter attacking powerhouse of a Hayden or Greenidge but those two never had his...

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