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    How good is Sanga?

    I don't understand what are trying to convey here? Blocky made 4-5 statements about peak rating in that post and also one statement about being number 1 for #83 tests for Sanga. Both are irrelevant in proving if he Sanga is better than Sachin. I was making fun of that peak logic argument which...
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    How good is Sanga?

    Agree. Wagon wheel is useless in finding out if a batsman frequently played pull or cut. I found your method more accurate and just for fun counted the same for Rahane's inning. Anyway, having seen that knock I already knew that he played plenty of those. It was not a surprise to me. Also, we...
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    How good is Sanga?

    I don't have any comment on Sanga and his so called weakness here but I don't find above argument very convincing. Out of curiosity, I looked for Rahane's 103 because I remember him handling short balls confidently. One of the best knock on green pitch in recent years. FOUR, a fraction short...
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    How good is Sanga?

    When do you put as cut off for his second purple patch getting started?
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    How good is Sanga?

    I wasn't really ranking Pakistan bowling in all conditions after Wasim/Waqar retired. I was only pointing out that how easy it has been to score runs against Pakistan in Asia after Wasim/Waar era. It's mainly the pitch they have and not that much to do with bowlers. Giving 37 runs and being...
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    How good is Sanga?

    My comment was about Pakistan in Asia. Had nothing to do with how Pakistan fares in non-Asian conditions. Indians have done better not because they have better bowlers but due to pitch not being flat for all venues. That was the point I was conveying. Wasim/Waqar were great on flat tracks but no...
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    How good is Sanga?

    MoYo and Sanga both have peak rating higher than Tendulkar. Both are surely better.
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    How good is Sanga?

    Facing India in India is actually not easy because they don't have flat pitches in all venues. Pakistan has not done great in Asian conditions after 2 Ws. Mainly due to flat tracks. Wasim/Waqar were great on flat tracks but you can't say that for bowlers who followed them. See below, Pakistani...
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    How good is Sanga?

    Two batsmen will be not even close if 100 at home is due to beating only 2-3 teams heavily at home. I will gladly take some one with 45 average if person does that against almost all teams/conditions. We always need to see how an aggregate average is achieved even if only looking at home...
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    How good is Sanga?

    And you find it crazy idea to see if batsmen are scoring runs against better bowling sides? Scoring runs against WI and SA are not the same thing. You will always get different amount of brownie points.
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    How good is Sanga?

    Did I bring up any implicit requirement for 40+ to proclaim anyone ATG? All of us make mistake and it's all right to simply move on rather than trying to spin it for the heck of spinning. What's wrong with seeing , who you are scoring runs against? If you won't judge batsmen based on...
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    How good is Sanga?

    Where?
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    How good is Sanga?

    I don't think that averaging below or higher than some random figure is a good way to put anyone in ATG category. You should always look at their performances against all oppositions and also how players did in different conditions but there shouldn't be any mathematical fix formula to decide...
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    How good is Sanga?

    What's the issue with breaking down by teams then? He has played 10 tests against every team.
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    How good is Sanga?

    Correct about either home or away but sample size gets less. If we look at against 5 bowling sides(home+away) then you have a better sample size. We can't have it both ways. One time we can't argue that he has less significant sample size and that's why he has low average in India, WI etc ...
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    Ajmal vs Herath

    I had this view for some time now. Herath runs through sides more frequently than Ajmal despite Ajmal having X-factor. I will put them at the same level in recent years in the longer format. Last 5 years or so,
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    How good is Sanga?

    There are only 5 teams , who can bowl reasonably well home and away both. Aus, SA, Eng , NZ and Pakistan. Sanga hasn't been prolific against 4 out of these 5. Now who are left. India and WI. India is pretty poor but they are still good at home. WI is pretty poor in both but they can bowl...
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    How good is Sanga?

    Thanks. You did a better job than me here. We sure can't measure it quantitatively and I wasn't claiming any precise measure of how much Don would have stood out in current era. I was only saying that there is a pretty good chance that he would have stood out less in modern era and that was due...
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    How good is Sanga?

    I wasn't talking about players in international cricket. I was talking about players above certain standards even if they are not playing international games. Also, don't take my numbers literally. International players comes from that set only. Let's put 3K test cricketers in two extreme...
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    How good is Sanga?

    He is not. Let's see. Good attacks are Aus, SA, NZ, Eng and Pakistan. Sanga agaist Aus, SA, NZ and Eng in his first 5 years: Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo Sanga against the same in the last 5 years: Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru |...

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