Lions tour 2025

[Ali TT]

Tizzano was there first although only momentarily, and has his shoulders/head flat with then below his hips when contract is made. Morgan makes contact going underneath Tizzano's left shoulder like a front row bind in a scrum. Hard to see if there was head contact, possibly cheek to cheek but Tizzano was already falling backwards and cleared out before Morgan's arm is around his leg.

Rugby players are hit in the head all the time. Never seen one grab their face/head like that before.

 

[ripper868]

Tizzano rested as still feeling sore from the perfectly legal and not at all unsafe cleanout...



White in for Gordon...I'd very much prefer Tate to start but I guess it's a step in the right direction.
Valetini out will hurt the go forward, and think we'll lack any real impact from the bench outside of Bell.
Pietsch looked decent in the tour matches he played, so don't think we lose/gain much with Potter's injury. Kellaway on bench for a 5-3 split gives more balance, but think we'll be overpowered again the 2nd half up front.

Suspect Lions walk this by 20 and Aussie rugby goes back to to being the dead game again.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Wobs nick it, myself. Definitely the value bet, anyway.

Half tempted to have an unpatriotic fiver on them at those odds:



Reckon if Skelton is up to another 10-15 minutes this time around that might just tip the scales.

Nice that Schmidt has stuck with Lynagh minor, but still not sure he's done enough to justify the love.

 

[Furball]

Tizzano rested as still feeling sore from the perfectly legal and not at all unsafe cleanout...

You've got to applaud the Australian management's commitment to the bit.

 

[ripper868]

Apparently 54Gs of force through his neck according to the fancy mouthguard things they wear, so being a bit sore probably justified tbh.
It's also quite difficult to not fall backwards when you've been hit like that and both your legs are being held.

 

[ripper868]

Nice that Schmidt has stuck with Lynagh minor, but still not sure he's done enough to justify the love.

Think it's more that we don't have anyone else really, it'd be nice for JOC to get a run from the bench, but he's not near starting and I guess if we can stick with Lynagh for a bit, maybe he'll grow and develop or something

 

[Molehill]

You've got to applaud the Australian management's commitment to the bit.

I assume it’s a concussion,

 

[ashley bach]

Without wanting to take attention away from this intriguing dead rubber, a question for keen rugby fans.
Having watched this match alone on some stream I never came to any conclusion about what really happened. Those who I did query were very
vague with their response and it's remained a mystery since.
It's just about the last play of the game and AB's receive a penalty from the kick off. There's no question the player is offside, he'd given himself up.
Sure enough the ref gives the penalty only to eventually somehow bring the video ref into business.
Firstly how on gods name is this a video ref situation?
What's really more peculiar is that there's no doubt the ball comes off Lions into a player in an offside position, yet this gets overturned.
The only other possibility is that it came off an AB's hand but there's simply no evidence of that and at most it would of been a fingernail.
What the heck really happened here?
Having watched this again I'm gonna go with the assumption the referee simply forgot and just butchered the rule book.

 

[ripper868]

No idea, but Kieran Read clearly tarnished his legacy by looking for clarification from the referee of the decision and should be shamed for the rest of his career for daring question the decision. Clearly not fit to be a captain by understanding the intricacies of the laws.

The real answer is it was accidental offside, so a scrum - it's different to the 2015 Scotland accidental offside...because.

(Sorry for not actually being helpful)

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Without wanting to take attention away from this intriguing dead rubber, a question for keen rugby fans.
Having watched this match alone on some stream I never came to any conclusion about what really happened. Those who I did query were very
vague with their response and it's remained a mystery since.
It's just about the last play of the game and AB's receive a penalty from the kick off. There's no question the player is offside, he'd given himself up.
Sure enough the ref gives the penalty only to eventually somehow bring the video ref into business.
Firstly how on gods name is this a video ref situation?
What's really more peculiar is that there's no doubt the ball comes off Lions into a player in an offside position, yet this gets overturned.
The only other possibility is that it came off an AB's hand but there's simply no evidence of that and at most it would of been a fingernail.
What the heck really happened here?
Having watched this again I'm gonna go with the assumption the referee simply forgot and just butchered the rule book.

Cheating Northern Hemisphere as usual

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Watched the old aaussies vs old lions last night. Quite enjoyable

 

[Skipper Pup]

The Lions visit Aus every 12 years, on a 4 year rotation with NZ and Sa, its not like this tour was a decision in a pub 2 years ago.

Rugby has been dying or on its knees in some way or the other for 20 years. But yet, 100k were at the G, they lost by 8 and 3 points to the best of Britain, an yes, people are talking about the game again, it may not be everyone talking about it again, but it's stirred something in some of those who perhaps had walked away or were about to.

Rugby will keep dying in Aus for the next 20 years, it'll keep being the 'silver spoon' sport for double barreled surname lawyers sons and be completely inaccessible for 'working class' people and have stupid law changes to make the game hard to follow.

But it'll still survive, because it is an international game, and it has the capacity to bring millions of pounds to the economy every 12 years, it has people from Rugby countries who have moved to Australia, and it has good people at the grassroots still who will never get acknowledged. If you think the game is dead, fine, bury it. But it's still there.

Football Australia was in a similar spot and managed to turn it around, starting with the accessibility of grassroots. WC qualification for the Socceroos was a huge launchpad for the growth of the game over the last ~15 years.

A family friend was telling me how much it cost to sign their kid up for a local club and it was absurd compared to how cheap it was for a while there.

The thing that made me walk away from Union is the rules. I find the officiating, constant kicking and stop-start nature of the game endlessly frustrating now. Maybe I'm just old and impatient.

I'll put the Wallabies game on TV if I'm home but unlikely I will ever buy a Reds membership or actively follow Super Rugby again.

 

[Molehill]

Without wanting to take attention away from this intriguing dead rubber, a question for keen rugby fans.
Having watched this match alone on some stream I never came to any conclusion about what really happened. Those who I did query were very
vague with their response and it's remained a mystery since.
It's just about the last play of the game and AB's receive a penalty from the kick off. There's no question the player is offside, he'd given himself up.
Sure enough the ref gives the penalty only to eventually somehow bring the video ref into business.
Firstly how on gods name is this a video ref situation?
What's really more peculiar is that there's no doubt the ball comes off Lions into a player in an offside position, yet this gets overturned.
The only other possibility is that it came off an AB's hand but there's simply no evidence of that and at most it would of been a fingernail.
What the heck really happened here?
Having watched this again I'm gonna go with the assumption the referee simply forgot and just butchered the rule book.

It clearly comes off the Lions player, but I'm not convinced it even goes forward. The second Lions player then realises he's potentially offside as he goes to play it and pulls away. I don't think that's a penalty offence and accidental offside (if he even was) is the correct call. But did the ball go forward?

 

[Ali TT]

Those once in a decade occasions the ABs fail to get the rub of the green from the officials clearly play on the mind...

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Those once in a decade occasions the ABs fail to get the rub of the green from the officials clearly play on the mind...

I assume you think Sam Cane deserved a red and Siya Kolisi only a yellow in the WC final was okay as well. Or it was fine to go back a million phases to take away Mo'unga's try?

 

[Ali TT]

I assume you think Sam Cane deserved a red and Siya Kolisi only a yellow in the WC final was okay as well. Or it was fine to go back a million phases to take away Mo'unga's try?

That's the 2020s wrapped up then

 

[ripper868]

I want to be excited for the game, but with the series gone it feels a bit like a damp squib right now tbh.

Course, want to avoid the whitewash etc. Could go either way in terms of mentality and being 'up' for the game, Aus on a low as series is gone, Lions possibly complacent as consequence free tour beers are just a dead rubber away.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Yeah, sadly a lot of truth in that.

The 2001 and 2009 tours both ended in 2-1 wins for the hosts, but the former felt far more of a contest as the last test was live.

2021 was a bit weird generally with the lack of crowds, so the whole tour felt a bit unreal.

 

[the big bambino]

I think the Lions will win, unless we get most of the ball. The Lions showed in the last game they can defend pressure whereas the Wallabies always looked like conceding points whenever the Lions got a share of possession and phases. I'm feeling the 2nd test was the Wallabies peak in performance and motivation. They might just fold with the disappointment of last week.

 

[Ali TT]

I want to be excited for the game, but with the series gone it feels a bit like a damp squib right now tbh.

Course, want to avoid the whitewash etc. Could go either way in terms of mentality and being 'up' for the game, Aus on a low as series is gone, Lions possibly complacent as consequence free tour beers are just a dead rubber away.

Apparently, quite literally