Mohammad Asif vs Shoaib Akhtar

[MasterBlaster24]

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[Thala_0710]

Asif

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Rawalpindi Express, just for those two balls at Eden Gardens

 

[subshakerz]

I am saying Asif because I don't think Shoaib would have had a full career given his body..

 

[capt_Luffy]

I am saying Asif because I don't think Shoaib would have had a full career given his body..

Does it matter when Asif didn't as well?

 

[subshakerz]

Does it matter when Asif didn't as well?

Asif wasn't unfit. He could have had a full career if not for corruption.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Asif wasn't unfit. He could have had a full career if not for corruption.

Not what I was saying. Both having a full career is hypothetical. I would rather go with what they had.

 

[subshakerz]

Not what I was saying. Both having a full career is hypothetical. I would rather go with what they had.

Yeah but Shoaib played over a decade for 46 tests. He couldn't complete most series.

Compared to that, Asif as a worldclass bowler wins by default.

 

[DrWolverine]

The only thing I admire about Shoaib is he would be one of the last Pak cricketers who would be involved in match fixing.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah but Shoaib played over a decade for 46 tests. He couldn't complete most series.

Compared to that, Asif as a worldclass bowler wins by default.

On a match to match basis, Akhtar is quite better. So given he played more as well, think it shan't be much that Asif has potential to play longer. His career wasn't cut short by a tragedy like Jackson or Appleyard, or something outside his control like Barry or O'Reilly, but by choice.

 

[subshakerz]

On a match to match basis, Akhtar is quite better. So given he played more as well, think it shan't be much that Asif has potential to play longer. His career wasn't cut short by a tragedy like Jackson or Appleyard, or something outside his control like Barry or O'Reilly, but by choice.

Sorry but if you can't bank on a bowler completing a series that's a major major liability

 

[sayon basak]

Sorry but if you can't bank on a bowler completing a series that's a major major liability

Sorry but if your bowler doesn't want to win, that's an even bigger liability.

 

[subshakerz]

Sorry but if your bowler doesn't want to win, that's an even bigger liability.

We aren't factoring that

 

[capt_Luffy]

We aren't factoring that

We are factoring their careers. His career is factually not near Akhtar

 

[subshakerz]

We are factoring their careers. His career is factually not near Akhtar

It is somewhat near as far as numbers go but there isn't any argument for a bowler who will break down mid series if not mid test regularly, sorry.

 

[sayon basak]

It is somewhat near as far as numbers go but there isn't any argument for a bowler who will break down mid series if not mid test regularly, sorry.

If you can factor that in, why can't you also factor in the fact that he had an even shorter career, that too for his own doing? I mean, I can somewhat forgive Akhtar as it was his body.

 

[subshakerz]

If you can factor that in, why can't you also factor in the fact that he had an even shorter career, that too for his own doing? I mean, I can somewhat forgive Akhtar as it was his body.

Sure but Asif showed enough to establish his class as a bowler comparable to Shoaib. Just less injury prone so I pick him.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Sure but Asif showed enough to establish his class as a bowler comparable to Shoaib. Just less injury prone so I pick him.

He also showed enough to establish he don't deserve any pity for circumstances.

 

[subshakerz]

He also showed enough to establish he don't deserve any pity for circumstances.

I.M.basing my vote on them as bowlers not moral exemplars.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I.M.basing my vote on them as bowlers not moral exemplars.

As bowlers one has twice the wickets as the other.