Who's Done the Most Damage?

[shortpitched713]

This is just petty lol refusing to give me credit.

Your argument is valid, but a bit overstated.

Where do you finally rank Ambrose?

 

[Shri]

none because i don't read player comparison threads

 

[Johan]

Where do you finally rank Ambrose?

Below Dennis Lillee.

 

[kyear2]

What's the point of this screenshot?

Yes, that's the point of the post to focus on.

The premise of the thread was to prove me wrong on several fronts, #batdeep, Imran being chief among them.

 

[shortpitched713]

Picard is literally the embodiment of the Prime Directive; whereas Kirk was more the Prime Erective

 

[shortpitched713]

It's only keeping this subforum, which is the taint of the forum, alive.

I mean the dirty, dark, stinky part of our body serves a valuable role too.

 

[subshakerz]

Your argument is valid, but a bit overstated.

Where do you finally rank Ambrose?

7th

 

[shortpitched713]

Root is better.

Root is really really good, and mostly underrated but I won't comment on relative placement until his career is over.

 

[Johan]

Root is really really good, and mostly underrated but I won't comment on relayive placement until his career is over.

3 tons in last 3 games, hope he does 8 tons in 8 games by the end of our next series.

 

[subshakerz]

No one individual has successfully changed mass opinions on anyone.

Lara has never made a first team here and has never been rated by the community above Viv.

Smith's emergence, and Hutton's over ranking has impacted Lara position more than Sub's rantings.

Though to be fair I have those 3 rated in the same tier, so there's no real issue with where Lara is rated, but he hasn't declined.

Not to mention that Kallis and Ambrose are exactly where they've always been if not higher.

Dude just because you've been so ineffective against Imran doesn't mean you need to take it out on me

 

[shortpitched713]

7th

Sorry, can you list whose better, and whose just below him? And if there's tiers to that in your mind?

Ambrose was definitely more consistent over whole career as a bowler than Imran, I would say.

 

[Johan]

I have Ambrose as the 5th best bowler of all time.

 

[Al Salvador]

I have Ambrose as the 5th best bowler of all time.

3rd

 

[subshakerz]

Sorry, can you list whose better, and whose just below him? And if there's tiers to that in your mind?

Ambrose was definitely more consistent over whole career as a bowler than Imran, I would say.

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Imran
Lillee
Ambrose

The reason I have Imran over Ambrose is he was simply more proven across conditions and didn't have the issues with penetration once his pace declined after their respective injuries. Also a more skilled bowler.

 

[Johan]

Marshall
McGrath
Hadlee
Steyn
Imran
Lillee
Ambrose

The reason I have Imran over Ambrose is he was simply more proven across conditions and didn't have the issues with penetration once his pace declined after their respective injuries. Also a more skilled bowler.

Come again?

 

[subshakerz]

Come again?

Yeah Imran to me is more proven given success in SC, WI, Eng and Aus.

 

[Johan]

Yeah Imran to me is more proven given success in SC, WI, Eng and Aus.

Idk why I thought Lillee lol

 

[subshakerz]

The greater impact posters can have is when they're trying to elevate players

Basically what Kyear does with WI players.

 

[subshakerz]

Idk why I thought Lillee lol

Lillee and Ambrose is close because neither is proven across conditions but Lillee was more penetrative and better after losing pace through injury.

Ambrose essentially is the most condition dependent perhaps of all the top pacers.

If in bouncy or seaming conditions he can be as deadly as Hadlee/McGrath but simply lacks tools to take wickets on other pitches relatively speaking.

Ambrose has a skill issue, smaller bag of tricks.

 

[Johan]

Lillee and Ambrose is close because neither is proven across conditions but Lillee was more penetrative and better after losing pace through injury.

Ambrose essentially is the most condition dependent perhaps of all the top pacers.

If in bouncy or seaming conditions he can be as deadly as Hadlee/McGrath but simply lacks tools to take wickets on other pitches relatively speaking.

Ambrose has a skill issue, smaller bag of tricks.

ok