sayon basak
International Coach
Ok I'm Stupid. I meant to say it's closer than their numbers suggest. Not that close overall, but certainly not Haze vs Lee.
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Jasprit Bumrah vs Rahul Dravid vs Kapil Dev
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Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
One of these things is not like the others.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Ok Gillespie is better than those guys
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
I think that’s a fair rating of Kapil though, somewhere close to Starc and Johnson.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
a bit ahead for me but not massively so
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah I’m not sure without taking a closer look where exactly I’d go, I don’t really have set rankings beyond a certain point, but somewhere around them feels right, whether above, below, or in between.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
So I go
All Time Great
Great
World Class
Very Good / above test standard
Test Standard
Etc etc.
Let's say he's world class, but when you look at the fact they he played in the 80's of all decades, even that isn't indisputable.
All I'm saying
sayon basak
International Coach
You said he's great, and as Great is just below ATG by your standards, can you agree that Kapil is close to being an ATG, but falls short?
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
I need to see some pews standardized averages. Starcs taken his last 300 wickets at like 25.5
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
I have 40 sure shot ATG's and about 10 that's borderline. He's not in that 10.
sayon basak
International Coach
Sure. I'm asking whether he is close to being in that 10.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
I have bowlers like Courtney Walsh and Waqar in the "great" or what you call ATVG category. Kapil isn't in that tier as a bowler.ATVG Bowler + 30 plus avg batsman = ATG.
If an ATVG bowler remains ATVG cricketer even after scoring 5000+ runs, whats the point of scoring all those runs
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He is deflecting because he called Kapil an above test standard bowler.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Since when is very good = above test standard?
You are playing with words deliberately because you got caught trying to diminish Kapil.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Kapil not being a World Class bowler is laughable tbh..... Yes, 80s were bowler friendly, and no, that wasn't for India. It's like saying Roberts wasn't Great because WI had so many ATG bowlers around then and shortly after.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No he said Kapil is an 'above test standard bowler'. Basically like a Sarfraz Nawaz/Kaspa level bowler.
Then when I pressed him what he meant he refused to respond and now is trying to pretend it means 'very good'.
He is such a weasel.
Never trust anything Kyear says.
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subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Kyear agreeing with you on something should cause you to doubt your existence.
Pap Finn Keighl
International Regular
I consider Waqar and Walsh ATGs.
Kapil just below Walsh.. ie ATVG.
Anyway, you think Kapil is 2 leagues below Donald.. And Kapil's 30+ batting avg is not good enough to bridge the gap.
Going by that logic, Sobers is at least 4 or 5 leagues below Bradman as batsman.right?