Which cricketers go on each countries Mount Rushmore?

[Fuller Pilch]

My understanding was that the Mount Rushmore presidents were chosen respectively to represent birth (as an independent nation), growth, development and preservation.

The first chronological name for each cricketing nation would have to be someone from the early days, such as Nayudu for India, or perhaps Mankad from the period immediately following political independence. It wouldn't be Ranji as he was too closely associated with the British.

Grace might represent growth for English cricket but not birth. It was established long before he appeared.

Learie Constantine might be a candidate for first name on the West Indian list.

John Small might do.

John Small - birth;
Fuller Pilch - growth;
WG Grace - development
Ben "saving test cricket" Stokes - preservation

 

[capt_Luffy]

Gonna do 11 each in order, so take the first 4 for your Rushmore:

Afghanistan: Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi, Mujeeb ur Rahman, Mohammad Shahzad, Hashmatullah Shahidi, Asgar Afghan, Rahmanullah Gurbaz, Rahmat Shah, Noor Ali Zadran, Abdul Aziz Durani, Azmatullah Omarzai

Australia: Don Bradman, Shane Warne, Dennis Lillee, Victor Trumper, Allan Border, Richie Benaud, Glenn McGrath, Adam Gilchrist, Billy O'Reilly, Ricky Ponting, Keith Miller

Bangladesh: Shakib Al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Mushtafizur Rahman, Mashrafe Mortaza, Habibul Bashar, Mahmudullah, Mehedy Hasan Miraj, Khaled Mashud, Litton Das, Tamim Iqbal

England: WG Grace, Jack Hobbs, Sydney Barnes, Wally Hammond, Len Hutton, Ian Botham, Alfred Mynn, Fred Trueman, James Anderson, Harold Larwood, Wilfred Rhodes

India: Sachin Tendulkar, Kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar, Jasprit Bumrah, Virat Kohli, MAK Pataudi, Rahul Dravid, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Sourav Ganguly, Vijay Hazare

Ireland: Kevin O'Brien, Ed Joyce, Paul Stirling, Dermott Mondeith, Tim Murtagh, William Porterfield, Andrew Balbirnie, Mark Adair, George Dockrell, Niall O'Brien, Trent Johnston

Kenya: Steve Tikolo, Aasif Karim, Thomas Odoyo, Basharat Hasan, Collins Obuyo, Maurice Odembe, Kennedy Otieno, Alex Obanda, Hiren Varaiya, Ravi Shah, Ragheb Aga, Martin Suji

Netherlands: Ryan ten Doescharte, Scott Edwards, Dik Abed, Paul van Mekeeren, Roelof van der Merwe, Bas de Leede, Peter Borren, Tom Copper, Max O'Dowd, Klaas-van Jan Noortwijk, Logan Van Beek

New Zealand: Richard Hadlee, Kane Williamson, Martin Crowe, John Richard Reid, Brendon McCullum, Stephen Fleming, Jack Cowie, Daniel Vettori, Jeremy Conney, Trent Boult, Martin Donnelly

Pakistan: Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Javed Miandad, Waqar Younis, Hanif Mohammad, Fazal Mahmood, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Misbah-ul-Haq, Wasim Bari, Younis Khan, Abdul Qadir

South Africa: Jacques Kallis, Graeme Pollock, Allan Donald, Basil D'Oliveira, Dale Steyn, AB de Villiers, Aubrey Faulkner, Shaun Pollock, Jimmy Sinclair, Barry Richards, Frank Roro

Sri Lanka: Mutthiah Muralitharan, Kumar Sangakkara, Aravinda de Silva, Arjuna Ranatunga, Sanath Jayasuriya, Mahela Jayawardene, Chaminda Vaas, Tommy Kelaart, Lasith Malinga, Somachandra de Silva, Angelo Mathews

United States of America: Bart King, Jack Clark, Steven Taylor, Ali Khan, George Patterson, Aaron Jones, Corey Anderson, Saurabh Netravalkar, Jaskaran Malhotra, Monaf Patel, Xavier Marshall

West Indies: Garry Sobers, Viv Richards, Frank Worrell, Brian Lara, George Headley, Malcolm Marshall, Andy Roberts, Clive Lloyd, Learie Constantine, Joel Garner, Michael Holding

Zimbabwe: Andy Flower, Heath Streak, Henry Olonga, Tatenda Taibu, Kevin Curran, Duncan Fletcher, Neil Johnson, Paul Strang, Brendan Taylor, Sikander Raza, Sean Williams

 

[Johan]

Gonna do 11 each in order, so take the first 4 for your Rushmore:

Afghanistan: Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi, Mujeeb ur Rahman, Mohammad Shahzad, Hashmatullah Shahidi, Asgar Afghan, Rahmanullah Gurbaz, Rahmat Shah, Noor Ali Zadran, Abdul Aziz Durani, Azmatullah Omarzai

Australia: Don Bradman, Shane Warne, Dennis Lillee, Victor Trumper, Allan Border, Richie Benaud, Glenn McGrath, Adam Gilchrist, Billy O'Reilly, Ricky Ponting, Keith Miller

Bangladesh: Shakib Al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Mushtafizur Rahman, Mashrafe Mortaza, Habibul Bashar, Mahmudullah, Mehedy Hasan Miraj, Khaled Mashud, Litton Das, Tamim Iqbal

England: WG Grace, Jack Hobbs, Sydney Barnes, Wally Hammond, Len Hutton, Ian Botham, Alfred Mynn, Fred Trueman, James Anderson, Douglas Jardine, Wilfred Rhodes

India: Sachin Tendulkar, Kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar, Jasprit Bumrah, Virat Kohli, MAK Pataudi, Rahul Dravid, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Sourav Ganguly, Vijay Hazare

Ireland: Kevin O'Brien, Ed Joyce, Paul Stirling, Dermott Mondeith, Tim Murtagh, William Porterfield, Andrew Balbirnie, Mark Adair, George Dockrell, Niall O'Brien, Trent Johnston

Kenya: Steve Tikolo, Aasif Karim, Thomas Odoyo, Basharat Hasan, Collins Obuyo, Maurice Odembe, Kennedy Otieno, Alex Obanda, Hiren Varaiya, Ravi Shah, Ragheb Aga, Martin Suji

Netherlands: Ryan ten Doescharte, Scott Edwards, Dik Abed, Paul van Mekeeren, Roelof van der Merwe, Bas de Leede, Peter Borren, Tom Copper, Max O'Dowd, Klaas-van Jan Noortwijk, Logan Van Beek

New Zealand: Richard Hadlee, Kane Williamson, Martin Crowe, John Richard Reid, Brendon McCullum, Stephen Fleming, Jack Cowie, Daniel Vettori, Jeremy Conney, Trent Boult, Martin Donnelly

Pakistan: Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Javed Miandad, Waqar Younis, Hanif Mohammad, Fazal Mahmood, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Misbah-ul-Haq, Wasim Bari, Younis Khan, Abdul Qadir

South Africa: Jacques Kallis, Graeme Pollock, Allan Donald, Basil D'Oliveira, Dale Steyn, AB de Villiers, Aubrey Faulkner, Shaun Pollock, Jimmy Sinclair, Temba Bavuma, Barry Richards

Sri Lanka: Mutthiah Muralitharan, Kumar Sangakkara, Aravinda de Silva, Arjuna Ranatunga, Sanath Jayasuriya, Mahela Jayawardene, Chaminda Vaas, Tommy Kelaart, Lasith Malinga, Somachandra de Silva, Angelo Mathews

United States of America: Bart King, Jack Clark, Steven Taylor, Ali Khan, George Patterson, Aaron Jones, Corey Anderson, Saurabh Netravalkar, Jaskaran Malhotra, Monaf Patel, Xavier Marshall

West Indies: Garry Sobers, Viv Richards, Frank Worrell, Brian Lara, George Headley, Malcolm Marshall, Andy Roberts, Clive Lloyd, Learie Constantine, Joel Garner, Michael Holding

Zimbabwe: Andy Flower, Heath Streak, Henry Olonga, Tatenda Taibu, Kevin Curran, Duncan Fletcher, Neil Johnson, Paul Strang, Brendan Taylor, Sikander Raza, Sean Williams

Yeah Mount Rushmore has 11 faces IIRC

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah Mount Rushmore has 11 faces IIRC

Already said just take 4.

 

[sayon basak]

Gonna do 11 each in order, so take the first 4 for your Rushmore:

Afghanistan: Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi, Mujeeb ur Rahman, Mohammad Shahzad, Hashmatullah Shahidi, Asgar Afghan, Rahmanullah Gurbaz, Rahmat Shah, Noor Ali Zadran, Abdul Aziz Durani, Azmatullah Omarzai

Australia: Don Bradman, Shane Warne, Dennis Lillee, Victor Trumper, Allan Border, Richie Benaud, Glenn McGrath, Adam Gilchrist, Billy O'Reilly, Ricky Ponting, Keith Miller

Bangladesh: Shakib Al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim, Tamim Iqbal, Mushtafizur Rahman, Mashrafe Mortaza, Habibul Bashar, Mahmudullah, Mehedy Hasan Miraj, Khaled Mashud, Litton Das, Tamim Iqbal

England: WG Grace, Jack Hobbs, Sydney Barnes, Wally Hammond, Len Hutton, Ian Botham, Alfred Mynn, Fred Trueman, James Anderson, Douglas Jardine, Wilfred Rhodes

India: Sachin Tendulkar, Kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar, Jasprit Bumrah, Virat Kohli, MAK Pataudi, Rahul Dravid, MS Dhoni, Anil Kumble, Sourav Ganguly, Vijay Hazare

Ireland: Kevin O'Brien, Ed Joyce, Paul Stirling, Dermott Mondeith, Tim Murtagh, William Porterfield, Andrew Balbirnie, Mark Adair, George Dockrell, Niall O'Brien, Trent Johnston

Kenya: Steve Tikolo, Aasif Karim, Thomas Odoyo, Basharat Hasan, Collins Obuyo, Maurice Odembe, Kennedy Otieno, Alex Obanda, Hiren Varaiya, Ravi Shah, Ragheb Aga, Martin Suji

Netherlands: Ryan ten Doescharte, Scott Edwards, Dik Abed, Paul van Mekeeren, Roelof van der Merwe, Bas de Leede, Peter Borren, Tom Copper, Max O'Dowd, Klaas-van Jan Noortwijk, Logan Van Beek

New Zealand: Richard Hadlee, Kane Williamson, Martin Crowe, John Richard Reid, Brendon McCullum, Stephen Fleming, Jack Cowie, Daniel Vettori, Jeremy Conney, Trent Boult, Martin Donnelly

Pakistan: Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Javed Miandad, Waqar Younis, Hanif Mohammad, Fazal Mahmood, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Misbah-ul-Haq, Wasim Bari, Younis Khan, Abdul Qadir

South Africa: Jacques Kallis, Graeme Pollock, Allan Donald, Basil D'Oliveira, Dale Steyn, AB de Villiers, Aubrey Faulkner, Shaun Pollock, Jimmy Sinclair, Temba Bavuma, Barry Richards

Sri Lanka: Mutthiah Muralitharan, Kumar Sangakkara, Aravinda de Silva, Arjuna Ranatunga, Sanath Jayasuriya, Mahela Jayawardene, Chaminda Vaas, Tommy Kelaart, Lasith Malinga, Somachandra de Silva, Angelo Mathews

United States of America: Bart King, Jack Clark, Steven Taylor, Ali Khan, George Patterson, Aaron Jones, Corey Anderson, Saurabh Netravalkar, Jaskaran Malhotra, Monaf Patel, Xavier Marshall

West Indies: Garry Sobers, Viv Richards, Frank Worrell, Brian Lara, George Headley, Malcolm Marshall, Andy Roberts, Clive Lloyd, Learie Constantine, Joel Garner, Michael Holding

Zimbabwe: Andy Flower, Heath Streak, Henry Olonga, Tatenda Taibu, Kevin Curran, Duncan Fletcher, Neil Johnson, Paul Strang, Brendan Taylor, Sikander Raza, Sean Williams

Larwood has to be there.

 

[Thala_0710]

Larwood has to be there.

Benjamin saving test cricket Stokes has to be there

 

[sayon basak]

Yeah Mount Rushmore has 11 faces IIRC

11>>4

 

[ataraxia]

Moeen Ali really has to be there.

 

[peterhrt]

John Small - birth;
Fuller Pilch - growth;
WG Grace - development
Ben "saving test cricket" Stokes - preservation

Agree with three of these. Would move Grace to "growth" and add Hobbs for "development".

 

[sayon basak]

Agree with three of these. Would move Grace to "growth" and add Hobbs for "development".

And move Stokes to the bin.

 

[Johan]

Stokes is amazing smh

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Stokes is amazing smh

Poor man's Fuller Pilch

 

[Johan]

Poor man's Fuller Pilch

Shut up.

 

[capt_Luffy]

My understanding was that the Mount Rushmore presidents were chosen respectively to represent birth (as an independent nation), growth, development and preservation.

The first chronological name for each cricketing nation would have to be someone from the early days, such as Nayudu for India, or perhaps Mankad from the period immediately following political independence. It wouldn't be Ranji as he was too closely associated with the British.

Grace might represent growth for English cricket but not birth. It was established long before he appeared.

Learie Constantine might be a candidate for first name on the West Indian list.

I liked this approach far more. So I will go:

Australia: Fred Spoforth (Birth), Victor Trumper (Development), Don Bradman (Growth), Allan Border (Preservation)

England: John Small (Birth), WG Grace (Development), Jack Hobbs (Growth), Ian Botham (Preservation)

West Indies: Learie Constantine (Birth), Frank Worrell (Development), Garry Sobers (Growth), Viv Richards (Preservation)

South Africa: Jimmy Sinclair (Birth), Aubrey Faulkner (Development), Graeme Pollock/Basil D'Oliveira (Growth, in 2 ways), Jacques Kallis (Preservation)

India: CK Nayudu (Birth), MAK Pataudi (Development), Kapil Dev (Growth), Sachin Tendulkar (Preservation)

Pakistan: Hanif Mohammad (Birth), Fazal Mahmood (Development), Imran Khan (Growth), Wasim Akram (Preservation)

New Zealand: Jack Cowie (Birth), John Richard Reid (Development), Richard Hadlee (Growth), Kane Williamson (Preservation)

Sri Lanka: Tommy Kelaart (Birth), Mahadevan Sathasivam (Development), Aravinda de Silva (Growth), Mutthiah Muralitharan (Preservation)

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I liked this approach far more. So I will go:

Australia: Fred Spoforth (Birth), Victor Trumper (Development), Don Bradman (Growth), Allan Border (Preservation)

England: John Small (Birth), WG Grace (Development), Jack Hobbs (Growth), Ian Botham (Preservation)

West Indies: Learie Constantine (Birth), Frank Worrell (Development), Garry Sobers (Growth), Viv Richards (Preservation)

South Africa: Jimmy Sinclair (Birth), Aubrey Faulkner (Development), Graeme Pollock/Basil D'Oliveira (Growth, in 2 ways), Jacques Kallis (Preservation)

India: CK Nayudu (Birth), MAK Pataudi (Development), Kapil Dev (Growth), Sachin Tendulkar (Preservation)

Pakistan: Hanif Mohammad (Birth), Fazal Mahmood (Development), Imran Khan (Growth), Wasim Akram (Preservation)

New Zealand: Jack Cowie (Birth), John Richard Reid (Development), Richard Hadlee (Growth), Kane Williamson (Preservation)

Sri Lanka: Tommy Kelaart (Birth), Mahadevan Sathasivam (Development), Aravinda de Silva (Growth), Mutthiah Muralitharan (Preservation)

Good list.

For NZ, Tom Lowry instead of Cowie imo.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Good list.

For NZ, Tom Lowry instead of Cowie imo.

Thought about it but think quality is also a bit important. Lowry was more instrumental in the process of birth, while Cowie put NZ in the global map as a young nation. By quality, Cowie made NZ XI while Lowry none of the first 10 (I wanted him in the 10th tbf)
Another confusing were the first 2 for Pak. Hanif and Fazal are way too close in timeline.

 

[Coronis]

Already said just take 4.

Why didn’t you just post 4 then?

 

[Coronis]

I liked this approach far more. So I will go:

Australia: Fred Spoforth (Birth), Victor Trumper (Development), Don Bradman (Growth), Allan Border (Preservation)

England: John Small (Birth), WG Grace (Development), Jack Hobbs (Growth), Ian Botham (Preservation)

West Indies: Learie Constantine (Birth), Frank Worrell (Development), Garry Sobers (Growth), Viv Richards (Preservation)

South Africa: Jimmy Sinclair (Birth), Aubrey Faulkner (Development), Graeme Pollock/Basil D'Oliveira (Growth, in 2 ways), Jacques Kallis (Preservation)

India: CK Nayudu (Birth), MAK Pataudi (Development), Kapil Dev (Growth), Sachin Tendulkar (Preservation)

Pakistan: Hanif Mohammad (Birth), Fazal Mahmood (Development), Imran Khan (Growth), Wasim Akram (Preservation)

New Zealand: Jack Cowie (Birth), John Richard Reid (Development), Richard Hadlee (Growth), Kane Williamson (Preservation)

Sri Lanka: Tommy Kelaart (Birth), Mahadevan Sathasivam (Development), Aravinda de Silva (Growth), Mutthiah Muralitharan (Preservation)

Unironically Chanderpaul fits preservation here perfectly.

 

[peterhrt]

NZ were playing internationals against Australia during the early 20th century. Could go back as far as Dan Reese.

Reggie Schwarz brought the googly to South Africa and might be a candidate.

 

[Johan]

Unironically Chanderpaul fits preservation here perfectly.

Throw the whole Mount Rushmore away