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4th Test (Old Trafford, Manchester) - 23rd to 27th of July

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I mean regardless of what backroom stuff has gone on structurally, that doesn't excuse a capitulation of this magnitude; this has been awe-inspiring in its insipidness ever since the second over of the England innings.
I am not denying that. I dont really see how GG survives this test and performance. But I am pissed off coz even if you rearrange the deck chairs, its not gonna be much bettter. Rohit has broken Bumrah and we have very little left in terms of bowling talent without which we aren't winning ****, either home or away.
 

Window

U19 Cricketer
Just caught up to the score after not following the game the past day and holy **** how does a team that’s been fairly competitive so far end up performing so poorly.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
I am not denying that. I dont really see how GG survives this test and performance. But I am pissed off coz even if you rearrange the deck chairs, its not gonna be much bettter. Rohit has broken Bumrah and we have very little left in terms of bowling talent without which we aren't winning ****, either home or away.
I mean I don't disagree at all, I've been wondering on here for the last two years where India's next wave of quicks will come from (and there remain questions about replacing Ashwin and Jadeja too). But this last two and half of the days cricket have not really been at an acceptable standard at all, that's purely on the players and on-the-ground team management. That first new ball spell was one of the worst I'd seen in ages.
 

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year
Collapsing after conceding 669 is more understandable than the insipid bowling India served up at the start of England's innings and that's where they let them get away.
 

King Kane

International Vice-Captain
A great test match, I mean the Wallabies v Lions rugby test match I just watched, this cricket test match seems like a boring one sided one now.
 

halba

International Debutant
They shouldn't have. A side with any degree of mental wherewithal should've taken the third Test in its stride and used the ten day layoff to collect itself for another go at a still very live series. Instead we've been presented with the worst performance of the last however many years. What exactly is the role of coach if he can't get the players right mentally?
i think there is no solution. India are at bang Afg or sl level now. They have lucked out talent wise. Not much coaches can do It was inevitable after several good years. Subcontinental teams have always struggled in England. They are simply not producing high quality pacers in domestic and whatever good batters they produce, they cant handle the overseas conditions

Compare that to say Aus, and they have an atg level in Scott Boland on the bench.
 

Arachnödouche2.0

State Vice-Captain
i think there is no solution. India are at bang Afg or sl level now. It was inevitable after several good years.
They're not. Good God man, they could've been 2-1 coming into this Test. The last two days have been a mental disintegration on par with the worst we've seen from an India team in years. Out of the blue too. You would've hoped Pant's antics would've galvanized them somewhat as a group but to put in that insipid performance in the field can only point to a complete lack of will and direction.
 

halba

International Debutant
I am not denying that. I dont really see how GG survives this test and performance. But I am pissed off coz even if you rearrange the deck chairs, its not gonna be much bettter. Rohit has broken Bumrah and we have very little left in terms of bowling talent without which we aren't winning ****, either home or away.
Its quite sad actually. Bumrah might be relegated to white ball only to preserve the rest of his career.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
They're not. Good God man, they could've been 2-1 coming into this Test. The last two days have been a mental disintegration on par with the worst we've seen from an India team in years. Out of the blue too. You would've hoped Pant's antics would've galvanized them somewhat as a group but to put in that insipid performance in the field can only point to a complete lack of will and direction.
I see you've met halba
 

Hungry Llama

U19 Vice-Captain
Kudos to Woakes, at last getting some reward, but I wish Brook would stop throwing the ball to ground after taking a catch, one day some finickity umpire may question whether he was in full control
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
This on BBC:

Joe Root has now scored 586 runs against Ravindra Jadeja across his career. In the history of Test cricket, no batter has ever scored more runs off a single bowler.

586 runs, 1284 balls, 8 wkts, Avg 73.25


Somewhat surprised..... Would've thought Sobers or Hutton or someone before that surely must've hammered some poor bastard to all parts of the field.
Do we have ball by ball data that far back to even calculate averages vs particular bowlers/runs scored by particular bowlers?
 

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