All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[sayon basak]

Imran definitely should have been. Grace will always divide people.

Imran has done the same thing as well.

 

[Thala_0710]

Imran definitely should have been. Grace will always divide people.

It's kinda crazy that CW considers Imran the 3rd best cricketer of all time yet can't vote him in an ATG XI.

Grace was voted in at 4th too though in the same poll

 

[subshakerz]

Good point, I could see myself voting Imran there and Imran potentially winning that battle as well

And Wasim would have got votes too. I think most here (including myself) wanted Marshall and McGrath as new ball bowlers and hence got stuck into voting McGrath over Imran.

 

[subshakerz]

Imran has done the same thing as well.

Not in terms of his general high standing in CW.

 

[sayon basak]

Grace was voted in at 4th too though in the same poll

That was a while ago. And greatness is pretty different from actual XI's.

 

[Thala_0710]

And Wasim would have got votes too. I think most here (including myself) wanted Marshall and McGrath as new ball bowlers and hence got stuck into voting McGrath over Imran.

Yup I agree, I used to have Marshall, McGrath and Hadlee as my attack in the AT XI. But, I've been convinced now to go the other direction with Hadlee and include Imran for his old ball exploits

 

[DrWolverine]

O'Reilly too

Grace
Trumper
Barry
Headley
Pollock
Faulkner
Procter
O Reilly
Barnes
Spofforth
Lohmann

 

[sayon basak]

Grace
Trumper
Barry
Headley
Pollock
Faulkner
Procter
O Reilly
Barnes
Spofforth
Lohmann

So players you don't rate should go in the same team. Fire.

 

[DrWolverine]

Yup I agree, I used to have Marshall, McGrath and Hadlee as my attack in the AT XI.

Marshall, Hadlee and Imran/Akram would be a good fit

 

[Thala_0710]

Marshall, Hadlee and Imran/Akram would be a good fit

That works as well, but I'd prefer McGrath over Hadlee, especially when Imran is already batting at 8

 

[DrWolverine]

So players you don't rate should go in the same team. Fire.

I would have picked Hobbs in that team.

 

[DrWolverine]

I am not comfortable with picking any pre-war cricketers with the exception of Bradman. Many may not agree but that’s just my opinion.

 

[subshakerz]

Yup I agree, I used to have Marshall, McGrath and Hadlee as my attack in the AT XI. But, I've been convinced now to go the other direction with Hadlee and include Imran for his old ball exploits

The same problem is happening now btw @capt_Luffy

You could have started for the 2nd XI by asking for who should be at no.8 (basically whether to pick bowling AR), and if Imran is selected then folks are going to pick their two best remaining pacers.

Yet now since you asked for two pacers posters may be selecting Imran based on AR package over other pacers they may rate higher.

I think the same happened in the first round of the 1st ATG XI. You asked for 2 pacers and I think a number of folk voted Hadlee thinking of his batting, otherwise McGrath normally beat Hadlee comfortably as a bowler here.

 

[Pothas]

Imran definitely should have been. Grace will always divide people.

It's kinda crazy that CW considers Imran the 3rd best cricketer of all time yet can't vote him in an ATG XI.

I think this is fine. Same goes for Kallis and nobody is fussed about that.

 

[DrWolverine]

The same problem is happening now btw @capt_Luffy

You could have started for the 2nd XI by asking for who should be at no.8 (basically whether to pick bowling AR), and if Imran is selected then folks are going to pick their two best remaining pacers.

Yet now since you asked for two pacers posters may be selecting Imran based on AR package over other pacers they may rate higher.

I think the same happened in the first round of the 1st ATG XI. You asked for 2 pacers and I think a number of folk voted Hadlee thinking of his batting, otherwise McGrath normally beat Hadlee comfortably as a bowler here.

If asked to pick just two pacers and not take into account their batting; I would have still gone for Marshall & Hadlee.

 

[capt_Luffy]

The same problem is happening now btw @capt_Luffy

You could have started for the 2nd XI by asking for who should be at no.8 (basically whether to pick bowling AR), and if Imran is selected then folks are going to pick their two best remaining pacers.

Yet now since you asked for two pacers posters may be selecting Imran based on AR package over other pacers they may rate higher.

I think the same happened in the first round of the 1st ATG XI. You asked for 2 pacers and I think a number of folk voted Hadlee thinking of his batting, otherwise McGrath normally beat Hadlee comfortably as a bowler here.

That's way too specific Imo. Hadlee beat McGrath fair and square at 15-11. Don't think should be an issue. I want Hadlee to bat at 9, he and McGrath are equal as bowlers to me and the batting gap is just too massive to gloss over

 

[Thala_0710]

The same problem is happening now btw @capt_Luffy

You could have started for the 2nd XI by asking for who should be at no.8 (basically whether to pick bowling AR), and if Imran is selected then folks are going to pick their two best remaining pacers.

Yet now since you asked for two pacers posters may be selecting Imran based on AR package over other pacers they may rate higher.

I think the same happened in the first round of the 1st ATG XI. You asked for 2 pacers and I think a number of folk voted Hadlee thinking of his batting, otherwise McGrath normally beat Hadlee comfortably as a bowler here.

Yeah but the thing is many prefer Hadlee/Imran over McGrath/Imran anyway

 

[sayon basak]

The same problem is happening now btw @capt_Luffy

You could have started for the 2nd XI by asking for who should be at no.8 (basically whether to pick bowling AR), and if Imran is selected then folks are going to pick their two best remaining pacers.

Yet now since you asked for two pacers posters may be selecting Imran based on AR package over other pacers they may rate higher.

I think the same happened in the first round of the 1st ATG XI. You asked for 2 pacers and I think a number of folk voted Hadlee thinking of his batting, otherwise McGrath normally beat Hadlee comfortably as a bowler here.

Just to get Imran in?

 

[ataraxia]

The same problem is happening now btw @capt_Luffy

You could have started for the 2nd XI by asking for who should be at no.8 (basically whether to pick bowling AR), and if Imran is selected then folks are going to pick their two best remaining pacers.

Yet now since you asked for two pacers posters may be selecting Imran based on AR package over other pacers they may rate higher.

I think the same happened in the first round of the 1st ATG XI. You asked for 2 pacers and I think a number of folk voted Hadlee thinking of his batting, otherwise McGrath normally beat Hadlee comfortably as a bowler here.

It's a really terrible idea to be overly restrictive in these things.

Your suggestion seems to enforce a team balance where there is exactly one bowling all-rounder, and they are a pacer. Sure, maybe most people agree with that for this team. But there's going to be people who want no bowling all-rounders, people who want two bowling all-rounders and asking for a #8 makes the whole thing become a mess. Personally I might respond Knott!

 

[Thala_0710]

It's a really terrible idea to be overly restrictive in these things.

Your suggestion seems to enforce a team balance where there is exactly one bowling all-rounder, and they are a pacer. Sure, maybe most people agree with that for this team. But there's going to be people who want no bowling all-rounders, people who want two bowling all-rounders and asking for a #8 makes the whole thing become a mess. Personally I might respond Knott!

Yeah exactly