Yep with Wood hoping for the Oval (they will know the prognosis) I would play Archer at OT.
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3rd Test (Lord’s) - 10 July to 14 July
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centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Since 2013, this is India's 4th innings record with targets from 140 runs to 420 runs.
4 wins, 4 draws, 13 losses.
4 wins, 4 draws, 13 losses.
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centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
For India, even targets in the range of 140 to 250 runs. It's just 3 wins, 7 losses.
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centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
In last 12 years, only once has a target above 200 been chased by India (Gabba).
Given this record and that the top score in England's 3rd innings of 192 was only 40 runs, I believe the majority significantly over estimated India's chances. It was a lot closer to a 50-50 chase, with the pitch seaming around coupled with up and down bounce.
For India to win, their top order had to knuckle down, which they didn't, while middle order was out to good balls. 41/1 became 82/7. England too had wickets falling in quick succession on day 4. So 193 wasn't an easy target (on that wicket) as many assumed. Only after 45 overs, did it become easier to survive, that too only because England were lacking a spinner.
Given this record and that the top score in England's 3rd innings of 192 was only 40 runs, I believe the majority significantly over estimated India's chances. It was a lot closer to a 50-50 chase, with the pitch seaming around coupled with up and down bounce.
For India to win, their top order had to knuckle down, which they didn't, while middle order was out to good balls. 41/1 became 82/7. England too had wickets falling in quick succession on day 4. So 193 wasn't an easy target (on that wicket) as many assumed. Only after 45 overs, did it become easier to survive, that too only because England were lacking a spinner.
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the big bambino
Cricketer Of The Year
Oh come on now; its Siraj. Surely you'd be tempted to tee off at an idiot bowler whacking off like a masturbating macaque with matching facial expressions and grunts?
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Captain
The pitch was temperamental, but England definitely left a few runs out there, Duckett, Crawley, Root, Brook and Stokes gave their wickets away (the same for Jaiswal and Nair for India)
Blenkinsop
State 12th Man
True up to a point, but there may well have been a collective team decision to be ultra positive / reckless when batting because of the state of the pitch.
LangleyburyCCPlayer
State Captain
Maybe that was the way to go considering runs were hard to come by, but an aggressive approach wasn’t reflected in our run rate tbf!
Victor Ian
International Coach
Can you do 4th innings chases for everyone? Is 3 v 7 actually good or bad?
Victor Ian
International Coach
Or, if not everyone, maybe the top 4 teams...India's peers.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Target upto 300 runs-
India: 3W, 9L
Aus: 8W, 5L
Eng: 9W, 7L
SA: 6W, 2L
NZ: 4W, 2L
Pak: 2W, 6L
Since 2013, only Pakistan is worse at chasing than India, both Pak's wins came against Bang and Ireland.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
England have 9W, 7L.
It's all thanks to bazball era, which includes 6W, 2L.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
India is easily the worst amongst the top 5 teams (SENAI). SENA nations all have more wins than losses for targets upto 300. Only India has significantly more losses than wins.
Arachnödouche2.0
State Vice-Captain
So basically we fold under fire. This is a young side yet so hope that this one hurts a lot and makes them rethink their approach to small targets. Not saying go berserk but not looking oppressed and under siege in body language goes a long way in conveying who's in the ascendancy.
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I'd be all for a batter clobbering a mouthy bowler - having silly ice hockey strike punch ups would be a good addition to the game. If they could do it while the umps are checking the shape of the ball or Gill is having his daily massage, then it won't even waste any time.
Was two moments in the third test that encapsulated the teams for me when India had an umpires call not given for them and started throwing a hissy fit giving it to the umpires and then next day same thing happened to England and they accepted it and got on with the play shows the immature baby antics of the Indian team tbh it's not hard to have a rivalry : )))
Victor Ian
International Coach
For the bat deep people...
Is India's shitness at chasing in the last innings and their recent tendency to have a long tail confirmation that bat deep works?
I don't think this record proves much of anything. You'd have to look into not just how all those chases unfolded, but also how many times they all chased in total and generally how often this situation occurs.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
yeah it's not because of batting deep. It's the mindset of the chasers..