*Official* Australia Tour of West Indies 2025

[halba]

Barring a 2nd innings miracle, that should be the end of Sam Konstas in test cricket. He has failed in every innings in tests bar his first.

Jake weatherald to open for Ashes.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Well we ended up batting under lights anyway and only got 9 in at them. It might have been a plan but I'm not convinced it was a good one.

Agree. If we were already 5 down and then went for it maybe but the plan seemed to start when only 2 or 3 wickets had been lost. A more circumspect batting approach and we could be pushing to 300/350 in the first dig

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

This was the perfect opportunity to reverse the batting order for West Indies , that tactic should be discussed for pink ball tests especially for the first couple of partnerships

 

[Nintendo]

This was the perfect opportunity to reverse the batting order for West Indies , that tactic should be discussed for pink ball tests especially for the first couple of partnerships

Nah bad idea. If your top order can't handle starc moving it around corners @145 with a ball that's hard to see under lights how are the lower order going to do it? Not like the Windies lower order are particularly good blockers bar warrican. Your just risking an injury to your bowlers for no reason.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Nah bad idea. If your top order can't handle starc moving it around corners @145 with a ball that's hard to see under lights how are the lower order going to do it? Not like the Windies lower order are particularly good blockers bar warrican. Your just risking an injury to your bowlers for no reason.

I think the idea is that you accept that in these conditions you're going to lose wickets no matter who you face , might aswell not be your best wickets.

 

[honestbharani]

I think there is merit in the idea of sending out some specialist blockers to play the night session in day/night tests but you still gotta send batsmen who can reasonably survive or have an above par chance of surviving.

 

[Prince EWS]

Nah bad idea. If your top order can't handle starc moving it around corners @145 with a ball that's hard to see under lights how are the lower order going to do it? Not like the Windies lower order are particularly good blockers bar warrican. Your just risking an injury to your bowlers for no reason.

Don't think the point is that they'll handle it, but that they're going to lose wickets anyway so they might as well lose shitter ones.

 

[Nintendo]

Don't think the point is that they'll handle it, but that they're going to lose wickets anyway so they might as well lose shitter ones.

Fair point. Still don't like the idea of sending the bowlers out to face a pink ball under lights. The ball is difficult to pickup and one blow to the elbow/glove could leave you a bowler down.

 

[Spark]

Yeah I can imagine sending out, like, the all-rounders out there because they can handle themselves but especially on a pitch which is a bit inconsistent as all the pitches have been this series, I certainly wouldn't be sending any bowlers out there.

 

[Qlder]

Congrats on Starc getting his 396th wicket. Only 4 more wkts to go for his 400

 

[TheJediBrah]

Shamar breaking his arm wouldn't be the worst result

 

[quincywagstaff]

Puzzling thing about Oz tactics is that they're acting like the Windies batting lineup has Viv Richards, Lara and Clive Lloyd in it.

On paper this Windies batting lineup against this Oz bowling is a no-contest and so it's largely proved this series. Do they really think they can't bowl them out for sub-200 if they started bowling in the afternoon?

Australia should still win but it seemed to be a needless waste of batting resources (maybe trying to justify to themselves of leaving Lyon out)

 

[the big bambino]

I hope this isn't a set tactic for pink ball tests. Surely you have to learn to bat under lights? You can't really ever score enough runs in two sessions in the hope of bowling the oppo out in the third. Just play the conditions as you find them.

 

[trundler]

I hope this isn't a set tactic for pink ball tests. Surely you have to learn to bat under lights? You can't really ever score enough runs in two sessions in the hope of bowling the oppo out in the third. Just play the conditions as you find them.

Why did they score only 50 runs in the first session if the plan was to get as many runs as possible before the lights come on? Bizarre. Smith especially just threw it away. Would've gotten way more batting normally.

 

[the big bambino]

We're relying on the WI batting to fail and as quincywagstaff said that happens in daylight anyway. But according to the tactic we've given 2 good batting sessions to the WI and they might just manage one of their batting performances. Just seems a bit too clever.

 

[mackembhoy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1944143955790319870

 

[cascade]

Feels like they bought into the idea that this test is destined to be done within three days and they decided to move things along to get there. But it's also now feeling a bit too much like the last pink ball test against WI when Carey and Cummins batted quickly (fair enough for both of them) and then they declared to get more time bowling under lights.

Though the bigger advantage this time seems to have been getting a crack at the makeshift openers. If they picked up King early it probably would have been worth it.

 

[Beamer]

Feels like they bought into the idea that this test is destined to be done within three days and they decided to move things along to get there. But it's also now feeling a bit too much like the last pink ball test against WI when Carey and Cummins batted quickly (fair enough for both of them) and then they declared to get more time bowling under lights.

Though the bigger advantage this time seems to have been getting a crack at the makeshift openers. If they picked up King early it probably would have been worth it.

Yeah they probably realised that we were down to 8 men last night with Louis, Campbell and Alzarri unable to bat at that time.

It sounds like Campbell and Alzarri are ok after scans but Louis has a serious injury and will not bat in this test.

 

[cascade]

Yeah they probably realised that we were down to 8 men last night with Louis, Campbell and Alzarri unable to bat at that time.

It sounds like Campbell and Alzarri are ok after scans but Louis has a serious injury and will not bat in this test.

Ah, that's a real shame. Never like it when a team loses a player, especially so early.

 

[Beamer]

Ah, that's a real shame. Never like it when a team loses a player, especially so early.

Don't worry, with Kraiggs form we were basically playing with 10 anyway, this just formalises it.....