Hadlee vs imran who had better peak

[subshakerz]

Peak Imran Khan imo is the greatest bowler of all time, with only Sydney Barnes havint an argument over him, the fire he bowled with has not been matched arguably, it's not like he was drowning in excellent support.

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Especially away from home, you can't even make excuses about bottlecaps and he was still exceptional

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Agreed. Hadlee during his peak also never had a great series in the WI. Which is a minor blemish.

 

[Johan]

His playing days global batting average was low. I think it was 25ish IIRC. So those numbers needs to be taken with a grain of sal.

I know, they come out to about 20 or smth when adjusted, same as Marshall, though Barnes has the freak feat of being a great bowler in his 50s that nobody ever did.

 

[Migara]

What is even more ridiculous is he average 40+ with the bat to go with it.

 

[subshakerz]

Here is a great clip of Benaud commentating on peak Imran and the mystery of reverse swing at the time.

 

[DrWolverine]

Hadlee during his peak also never had a great series in the WI. Which is a minor blemish.

Hadlee played only 1 series in WI.
4 Tests. 15 wickets @ 27.

A decent record for someone with zero support and bowling to Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, Richie Richardson and the great Viv Richards.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Hadlee played only 1 series in WI.
4 Tests. 15 wickets @ 27.

A decent record for someone with zero support and bowling to Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, Richie Richardson and the great Viv Richards.

Yeah certainly nothing to hold against him. And he bowled them to a series win in 1980 (at home). Still imo, Imran had the greatest peak ever.

 

[subshakerz]

Hadlee played only 1 series in WI.
4 Tests. 15 wickets @ 27.

A decent record for someone with zero support and bowling to Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, Richie Richardson and the great Viv Richards.

Yes it wasn't great but wasn't a fail

 

[DrWolverine]

One series isn’t enough to judge a player.

Just like we do not judge Marshall for his record in NZ. 3 Tests. 9 wickets @ 32.

 

[govinda indian fan]

Sorry @subshakerz we are not belittling imran here. Fyi imran was much loved in india as he was in pakistan. My older uncle is big fan of imran and has collections of imran's unique records. Imo just favor hadlee as he was lone warrior compered to imran who had sarfraz wasim and another bloke whose name i forgot( is analyst on geo news famous for conspiracy theory)

 

[govinda indian fan]

Sikandar bhatt got it

 

[govinda indian fan]

Here is a great clip of Benaud commentating on peak Imran and the mystery of reverse swing at the time.

Thanks bro. Reverse swing even thorough it comes under ball tampering has made our game balanced.

 

[subshakerz]

Sorry @subshakerz we are not belittling imran here. Fyi imran was much loved in india as he was in pakistan. My older uncle is big fan of imran and has collections of imran's unique records. Imo just favor hadlee as he was lone warrior compered to imran who had sarfraz wasim and another bloke whose name i forgot( is analyst on geo news famous for conspiracy theory)

Wasim came in 86 somewhat later in his peak.

Sarfraz is probably same level as some of the NZ pacers that Hadlee had.

Though he did have Qadir and Qasim as spinners.

 

[subshakerz]

One series isn’t enough to judge a player.

Just like we do not judge Marshall for his record in NZ. 3 Tests. 9 wickets @ 32.

We are judging a small period of time, a peak, so a single series against the best opposition in their backyards matters a bit.

 

[Coronis]

One series isn’t enough to judge a player.

Just like we do not judge Marshall for his record in NZ. 3 Tests. 9 wickets @ 32.

Speak for yourself.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Hadlee played only 1 series in WI.
4 Tests. 15 wickets @ 27.

A decent record for someone with zero support and bowling to Gordon Greenidge, Desmond Haynes, Richie Richardson and the great Viv Richards.

And those series returns only look a little less good in terms of wicket output because he basically didn't get to bowl in the second innings of two of the tests.

 

[DrWolverine]

And those series returns only look a little less good in terms of wicket output because he basically didn't get to bowl in the second innings of two of the tests.

1. 24.3 overs, 4/82
2. 17.0 overs, 0/58
3. 25.5 overs, 2/83
4. 16.0 overs, 2/32
5. 26.0 overs, 3/86
6. 28.4 overs, 4/53
7. 5.0 overs, 0/15

Dismissed :
Haynes 4 times
Richards 2 times
Gomes 2 times
Logie 2 times
Greendige once
Dujon once

 

[subshakerz]

Hadlees rep took a minor hit after that WI tour.

 

[Johan]

Hadlees rep took a minor hit after that WI tour.

proof?

 

[subshakerz]

proof?

In his autobiography All Round View Imran Khan wrote of Hadlee “I also was told by the West Indians that when Hadlee toured the Caribbean, he was not the same attacking bowler they feared from county cricket”.