Where Does Rishabh Pant Stand Among the Great Wicketkeeper-Batters in Test Cricket?

[DrWolverine]

Back in the 2018s/19s he wasn't fit to keep in a Test.

True. He was just horrendous

 

[DrWolverine]

Gilchrist as explosive as he was, he was still a more known quantity than the headcase that Pant is.

Adam Gilchrist was certainly more explosive but his style had the discipline of a proper batsman who was powerful but yet measured. In contrast, Rishabh Pant’s brilliance feels wild, unpredictable and almost chaotic in its charm. and that is a huge reason of his popularity. With every ball fans are on the edge of their seats wondering whether he will clear the ropes with a freakish six that defies logic or walk back to the pavilion.

 

[kyear2]

No

Before I even get into reading the thread, I've seen 3 articles asking is he's the GOAT or among the greatest ever, and in none of them, none of them was the word " glove work" or "gloves" even mentioned.

So yes, in agreement.

 

[kyear2]

Are you asking solely on batting, or keeping and batting?

Exactly.

 

[Thala_0710]

What is the level of batsman Pant must end up to be seen as the equal/better of Gilly assuming decent level of wicket keeping, like he was pre accident?
Kohli? Or better, or worse?

 

[Johan]

Kohli easily better bat than even Flower

 

[DrWolverine]

Exactly.

The question is about Rishabh Pant so obviously it cannot be wicket keeping for sure.

 

[kyear2]

The question is about Rishabh Pant so obviously it cannot be wicket keeping for sure.

That's half the job, just saying.

 

[DrWolverine]

True.

But the OP’s question was about batting alone.

 

[kyear2]

What is the level of batsman Pant must end up to be seen as the equal/better of Gilly assuming decent level of wicket keeping, like he was pre accident?
Kohli? Or better, or worse?

Even in this match he's been average, no more. At this level he can't surpass Gilchrist regarding how good a batsman he becomes.

Imho he needs to elevate his keeping to at least world class to even merit consideration.

 

[capt_Luffy]

What is the level of batsman Pant must end up to be seen as the equal/better of Gilly assuming decent level of wicket keeping, like he was pre accident?
Kohli? Or better, or worse?

About Weekes level atleast

 

[sayon basak]

True.

But the OP’s question was about batting alone.

Umm, no.

"Where Does Rishabh Pant Stand Among the Great Wicketkeeper-Batters in Test Cricket?", therefore, the OP asks both combined.

 

[sayon basak]

About Weekes level atleast

Let him live his life man.

 

[kyear2]

That's interesting.

Flower was abysmal with the gloves, so yeah. Even Pant is ahead of him.

 

[DrWolverine]

"Where Does Rishabh Pant Stand Among the Great Wicketkeeper-Batters in Test Cricket?", therefore, the OP asks both combined.

Come on dude.

It’s Pant. No one wants to talk about his keeping.

The batting alone is the reason for this thread.

 

[Thala_0710]

Even in this match he's been average, no more. At this level he can't surpass Gilchrist regarding how good a batsman he becomes.

Imho he needs to elevate his keeping to at least world class to even merit consideration.

I would agree mostly but if he became proper ATG with the bat theoretically, he could challenge Gilly then ig

 

[DrWolverine]

I would agree mostly but if he became proper ATG with the bat theoretically, he could challenge Gilly then ig

Gilchrist is like the perfect choice in ATG team
1. Great batsman. Good keeper
2. Plays at number 7 position

I do not think there is any one to challenge him for a place in an ATG team unless someone wants great keeper and good batsman(Alan Knott)

 

[sayon basak]

Come on dude.

It’s Pant. No one wants to talk about his keeping.

The batting alone is the reason for this thread.

You don't rate him at all as a "wicket keeper"? That sounds too extreme.

 

[OverratedSanity]

As a batsman, has a chance to surpass Gilchrist by the time he's done. Don't think he can improve enough with the gloves to come close to him overall as a keeper bat.

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

What is the level of batsman Pant must end up to be seen as the equal/better of Gilly assuming decent level of wicket keeping, like he was pre accident?
Kohli? Or better, or worse?

eh, bit disrespectful to Kohli comparing him with Gilchrist, as great as the latter was. Kohli faced and excelled at for a long time at a different set of challenges entirely as a batsman.