Most overrated cricketer

[akilana]

 

[thierry henry]

Haha i was only partially trolling but why are they unrelated to his actual career?

BECAUSE I WAS DRUNK

 

[Coronis]

BECAUSE I WAS DRUNK

If you can’t debate cricket when drunk, when can you?

 

[Johan]

overrated by whom? people here? critics? general populace?

 

[ankitj]

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Kallis haters can suck it

 

[Johan]

I don't think Hammond's record against West Indies is a real issue, he was at the worst point in his career before a second wind, I'm not saying that excuses it but imagine if the only South Africa tour Tendulkar had was in 2005-7 time and he never got a chance to rectify things? It is kind of similar, and I don't think Hammond's home record against them is an issue. His real issue was with one bowler, Learie Constantine, I'm also pretty sure in games where he got Martindale or Griffith or Hylton without Constantine, He absolutely put them to the sword.

Even in the 1934 series, he had a performance worth more than many hundreds, and definitely Man-of-the-Match worthy, absolutely brilliant stuff.

 

[subshakerz]

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Kallis haters can suck it

So you agree with Ponting that Kallis is greater than Sobers and Bradman?

 

[Coronis]

I don't think Hammond's record against West Indies is a real issue, he was at the worst point in his career before a second wind, I'm not saying that excuses it but imagine if the only South Africa tour Tendulkar had was in 2005-7 time and he never got a chance to rectify things? It is kind of similar, and I don't think Hammond's home record against them is an issue. His real issue was with one bowler, Learie Constantine, I'm also pretty sure in games where he got Martindale or Griffith or Hylton without Constantine, He absolutely put them to the sword.

Even in the 1934 series, he had a performance worth more than many hundreds, and definitely Man-of-the-Match worthy, absolutely brilliant stuff.

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Excuse me sir, I’ll be the judge of that

 

[Johan]

Excuse me sir, I’ll be the judge of that

I didn't get it.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I didn't get it.

Determining player of the match/series for historic tests

I’ll start this off half-assed. England in Australia 1876/77 First Test: Charles Bannerman 165*, 4 Starting off with the easy one, Bannerman’s 165* remains to hold the record of the highest % of team runs by a single player in a completed innings. Absolutely pivotal in Australia’s 45 run win...

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[Johan]

Determining player of the match/series for historic tests

I’ll start this off half-assed. England in Australia 1876/77 First Test: Charles Bannerman 165*, 4 Starting off with the easy one, Bannerman’s 165* remains to hold the record of the highest % of team runs by a single player in a completed innings. Absolutely pivotal in Australia’s 45 run win...

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Ah!

 

[sayon basak]

Mike Atherton.

 

[ankitj]

So you agree with Ponting that Kallis is greater than Sobers and Bradman?

Yes

You thought that was a gotcha?

 

[subshakerz]

Yes

You thought that was a gotcha?

With Bradman, yeah I did.

 

[ankitj]

With Bradman, yeah I did.

What you gonna do now?

 

[Ali TT]

Mike Atherton.

Who's over rating him?

 

[subshakerz]

What you gonna do now?

Move on obviously to more serious views.

 

[Johan]

I think Frank Woolley is historically an overrated Test player, I get that he was very much a great player but I think people focused more on his style and talent than on his actual output, He was a David Gower-esque exquisite timer of the ball but really lacked Gower's skill of making big hundreds and was even more careless than Gower, he has five Test centuries to twenty-three half centuries, only two Ashes hundreds over 51 innings. Aggressive player but I don't really think anything seprates his batting from just another Stokes, to boot, he has less than 1 WPI in Test Cricket and was never a relevant bowler in Test Cricket outside one year in Pre-War era. Insane longevity but doesn't have much else going on for him on the test stage.

His first class bowling numbers, though, are ridiculous, would love an explaination on the disparity between his Test bowling record and his first class bowling record that extends beyond simply "level of competition".

 

[capt_Luffy]

I think Frank Woolley is historically an overrated Test player, I get that he was very much a great player but I think people focused more on his style and talent than on his actual output, He was a David Gower-esque exquisite timer of the ball but really lacked Gower's skill of making big hundreds and was even more careless than Gower, he has five Test centuries to twenty-three half centuries, only two Ashes hundreds over 51 innings. Aggressive player but I don't really think anything seprates his batting from just another Stokes, to boot, he has less than 1 WPI in Test Cricket and was never a relevant bowler in Test Cricket outside one year in Pre-War era. Insane longevity but doesn't have much else going on for him on the test stage.

His first class bowling numbers, though, are ridiculous, would love an explaination on the disparity between his Test bowling record and his first class bowling record that extends beyond simply "level of competition".

Averages 24 in England in Tests I believe with the ball. Probs bowling a bit dependent on English conditions and even then didn't bowl enough, barely 1 WPM.

 

[govinda indian fan]

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