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Who will win these battles

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Advantage Hutton.
Not really. First off, seamers prefer bats who just try and block them rather than unsettle their line and length with strokeplay.

Second, Asif was McGrath level intelligent with the new ball yet produced even more movement than he did.

Unless the pitch is dead, I back Asif versus anybody.
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Not really. First off, seamers prefer bats who just try and block them rather than unsettle their line and length with strokeplay.

Second, Asif was McGrath level intelligent with the new ball yet produced even more movement than he did.

Unless the pitch is dead, I back Asif versus anybody.
what makes you think Hutton won't deduce something even you (no offense) have deduced?
 

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
And I don't think it will work on a redo. There's a reason Head fell off.
So your position is that Head fluked a great series against Bumrah, Smiths runs should be ignored because he didn't look comfy and Roots runs are all soft.

We all admire Bumrah but maybe try and keep your fanboyism in check.
 

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Adaptive.
Lol in these scenarios we are assuming they are playing as they naturally are. In a scenario where in England he has to survive against Asif by grinding it out, I give Asif the advantage most of the time.
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
Lol in these scenarios we are assuming they are playing as they naturally are. In a scenario where in England he has to survive against Asif by grinding it out, I give Asif the advantage most of the time.
I'm saying his natural style was adaptive and changed as the match demanded.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
So your position is that Head fluked a great series against Bumrah, Smiths runs should be ignored because he didn't look comfy and Roots runs are all soft.

We all admire Bumrah but maybe try and keep your fanboyism in check.
No. I said Smith wasn't comfy and Root scored soft runs in India, so I don't think I will rate either as the winner to Bumrah. And that hitting out won't work regularly, just because it did once for Head. Lol lol, you were the one who said with "guarantee" Viv will average 40+ to Bumrah, lol
 

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No. I said Smith wasn't comfy and Root scored soft runs in India, so I don't think I will rate either as the winner to Bumrah. And that hitting out won't work regularly, just because it did once for Head. Lol lol, you were the one who said with "guarantee" Viv will average 40+ to Bumrah, lol
Smith and Root scored runs against Bumrah, that's all that matters. Neither lost against Bumrah.

Head hit out against Bumrah at his absolute best an entire series successfully so saying it won't work categorically as a tactic is simply wrong.

So yeah I am confident that Viv who did well against all ATG bowlers he met would do so against Bumrah.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Smith and Root scored runs against Bumrah, that's all that matters. Neither lost against Bumrah.

Head hit out against Bumrah at his absolute best an entire series successfully so saying it won't work categorically as a tactic is simply wrong.

So yeah I am confident that Viv who did well against all ATG bowlers he met would do so against Bumrah.
And I don't agree. I think at best I can say Root vs Bumrah was a draw, vs Smith he clearly won.

I said it won't work regularly. And he hit out the scrubs much more than he did Bumrah.

And I think overall he will have the clear edge to Viv. You are free to disagree or even guarantee for the opposite, that hardly invalidates my opinion.
 

Thala_0710

International Captain
I mean Head avgs 22.2 h2h vs Bumrah in tests, should be clear enough that the approach hasn't worked repeatedly against him.
 

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
And I don't agree. I think at best I can say Root vs Bumrah was a draw, vs Smith he clearly won.

I said it won't work regularly. And he hit out the scrubs much more than he did Bumrah.

And I think overall he will have the clear edge to Viv. You are free to disagree or even guarantee for the opposite, that hardly invalidates my opinion.
How again is it a clear win against Smith if Smith averages over 40 with three tons? Are we supposed to ignore that?
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
so Smith just blocked down Bumrah?
Tbf, I think more often than not batsmen vs Bowlers hardly represent the way the matchup went properly. I mean, if you think about it, that's really the smarter thing to do. If a batsman scores some runs in a match against a bowler they, we will all praise the batsman irrespective of how many he scored to them. The same is not true for bowlers.
 

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