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Australia's Best ODI team of all time

h_hurricane

International Vice-Captain
Would he really?
It depends on the team make up right ? 2 out of Bevan, Hussey and Jones are good enough to play through the overs. If you replace Jones or Hussey with an out and out hitter, that could be the difference between a very good total and an imposing total.

Not saying he has done enough so far. May be 2-3 years down the line depending on how his career goes.
 

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You've already got Symonds there as a hitter, plus Hussey and Jones could really hit out when needed.

I'd take their consistency over Maxwell.
 

quincywagstaff

International Debutant
Gilchrist
M Waugh
Ponting
Clarke
Symonds
Bevan
Hussey
Lee
Warne
Starc
McGrath

2nd XI:

Watson
Hayden
Smith
G Chappell
Jones
Martyn
Haddin
Hogg
Johnson
Gillespie
Lillee

Some amazing players still left out:
Bracken
S Waugh
Healy
Border
McDermott
Boon
I'd probably have Jones in the best over ODI XI just ahead of Clarke. For about 5 years he was Australia's standout ODI bat (and close to the best of the world) which is something his overall career stats by his own standards don't really reflect.

I know his record's pretty decent, but Jason Gillespie never comes to mind as being a particularly great ODI bowler. Don't think he ever got a MOM in that format and through timing and injury played very little World Cup cricket also hurts his cause. Would definitely rate Bracken above him who for a few years was a master in the format.

Greg Chappell's ODI claims are a hurt a fair bit by opting not to play in the 1983 WC. Sure, he was doing that a fair bit in that period but it should still count against him and probably sounded the death knell for their WC hopes that year.
 

TheJediBrah

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Gilchrist (WK)
Hayden
Ponting (C)
Bevan
Hussey
S Waugh
Symonds
Lee
Warne
Lillee
McGrath
S Waugh? Really? Watson was comfortably better than him batting and bowling, and there are plenty of other better middle order batsmen, eg. Jones, Smith, Martyn, Clarke
 

Thala_0710

International Regular
Now that Glenn Maxwell has announced his retirement from ODI Cricket, does he make Australia's all time ODI XI?
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
What about:
Gilly+
Warner
Punter*
Jones
Hussey
Maxwell
Bevan
Lee
Warne
Starc
McGrath
Watson?? Think need his bowling. And Symonds is just a more consistent Maxwell. Will go:

Gilly+
Wato
Ponting*
Dean
Symonds
Bevan
Hussey
Lee
Warne
Starc
McGrath


Maxwell has a case over Hussey, but Hussey could strike hard if he wanted to really as well, so not sure.
 

Thala_0710

International Regular
Watson?? Think need his bowling. And Symonds is just a more consistent Maxwell. Will go:

Gilly+
Wato
Ponting*
Dean
Symonds
Bevan
Hussey
Lee
Warne
Starc
McGrath


Maxwell has a case over Hussey, but Hussey could strike hard if he wanted to really as well, so not sure.
Can take Watto over Warner yes. I'll take Maxwell over Symonds, bit more explosive at his best which I feel suits this team more, and imo a better bowler, especially by the latter stages of his career.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Can take Watto over Warner yes. I'll take Maxwell over Symonds, bit more explosive at his best which I feel suits this team more, and imo a better bowler, especially by the latter stages of his career.
Symonds just think is explosive enough to be somewhat comparable given Era and just that much more consistent at that. Bowling think is Even Stevens, but might lean Symonds for variety.
 

Thala_0710

International Regular
Symonds just think is explosive enough to be somewhat comparable given Era and just that much more consistent at that. Bowling think is Even Stevens, but might lean Symonds for variety.
The top 6 will give you consistent runs, so I'm not worried about the consistentcy too much. The extra explosive 127 SR makes me go to Maxwell which even for era adjustment is pretty special.
Symonds' bowling level had variety but mostly felt to me of a 6th bowler level, whereas Maxwell especially by the end was operating at a 5th bowler level imo.
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
I think you have to fit maxwell in purely for his WC record, no? Averages 50 at a 130+ sr or something ridiculous like that. Different type of fielder but just as good as symmo at his physical peak.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
The top 6 will give you consistent runs, so I'm not worried about the consistentcy too much. The extra explosive 127 SR makes me go to Maxwell which even for era adjustment is pretty special.
Symonds' bowling level had variety but mostly felt to me of a 6th bowler level, whereas Maxwell especially by the end was operating at a 5th bowler level imo.
If need be, I still think I would bench Hussey rather Symonds. 40 avg, 92 SR in the 2000s is pretty special. Not like so wasn't Hussey, but think Bevan fills the niche. And while Maxi operated as a 5th bowler, don't think he was particularly good at it.
 

Thala_0710

International Regular
I think you have to fit maxwell in purely for his WC record, no? Averages 50 at a 130+ sr or something ridiculous like that. Different type of fielder but just as good as symmo at his physical peak.
That as well, but Maxwell 2015 and Symonds 2003 were both great WCs although I'd go with Symonds one. But Maxwell then did what he did in 2023 in Afghanistan and also the crucial wicket of Rohit in the final. I'd say both are around equal at the WCs
 

Thala_0710

International Regular
If need be, I still think I would bench Hussey rather Symonds. 40 avg, 92 SR in the 2000s is pretty special. Not like so wasn't Hussey, but think Bevan fills the niche. And while Maxi operated as a 5th bowler, don't think he was particularly good at it.
That can be done actually, and then I would potentially not need to drop Warner for Watto as well
 

Gob

International Coach
Now that Glenn Maxwell has announced his retirement from ODI Cricket, does he make Australia's all time ODI XI?
Symonds did do almost everything Maxi could but with a better consistency. I said almost as the absolute best of Maxwell is better than Symond's but the better consistency makes up for it
 

Thala_0710

International Regular
Symonds did do almost everything Maxi could but with a better consistency. I said almost as the absolute best of Maxwell is better than Symond's but the better consistency makes up for it
Yeah I agree with that, but I'd take that higher explosive ceiling for Maxwell, especially with a top 6 as good as this one for my AT XI.
 

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I don’t think I can find a spot for him. Great player though.

M Waugh
Gilchrist
Ponting
Jones
Watson
Symonds
Hussey
Warne
Starc
Lee
McGrath
 

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