Brian Lara vs Sunil Gavaskar (Away from home)

[Johan]

Can be. But there's one I will rate significantly higher than the other.

I'll take Lara's 132 in Perth in 96-97 over an entire series of making 50-55 in Australia but that doesn't mean Lara did not have consistency issues against top class pacers too.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I'll take Lara's 132 in Perth in 96-97 over an entire series of making 50-55 in Australia but that doesn't mean Lara did not have consistency issues against top class pacers too.

I think personally it's fine to judge a literal 3 matches with an ATG innings.

 

[Johan]

I think personally it's fine to judge a literal 3 matches with an ATG innings.

Have you read the entire thread?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Have you read the entire thread?

Nope

 

[Johan]

Nope

my point was while Sachin got hundreds against pacers in his peak, it was very rock and diamonds until Steyn, so 5 sub 30 scores (rocks) and a ATG inning (diamond) just further goes to prove my point.

 

[DrWolverine]

It is ridiculous to say this guy wasn’t good. He scored centuries against the best, meanest and fastest of bowlers and that too as an opener.

Sunil Gavaskar’s centuries :

1. 1976 - Andy Roberts & Michael Holding
2. 1976 - Michael Holding
3. 1976 - Richard Hadlee
4. 1978 - Imran Khan
5. 1978 - Imran Khan
6. 1980 - Imran Khan
7. 1983 - Imran Khan
8. 1983 - Roberts, Holding, Marshall & Garner
9. 1983 - Marshall & Holding
10. 1983 - Marshall & Holding

Also:
1. 1974 - Bob Willis
2. 1977 - Bob Willis
3. 1977 - Jeff Thomson
4. 1977 - Jeff Thomson
5. 1977 - Jeff Thomson
6. 1978 - Sylvester Clarke
7. 1978 - Sylvester Clarke & young Marshall
8. 1978 - Sylvester Clarke
9. 1978 - Sylvester Clarke
10. 1979 - Bob Willis & Ian Botham
11. 1981 - Ian Botham
12. 1985 - Craig McDermott

 

[Johan]

Lara was better

 

[DrWolverine]

I do not think so but hey it’s okay

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lara was better

Didn't you agreed Sunny was better to High pacers?

 

[Johan]

Didn't you agreed Sunny was better to High pacers?

Lara to Seamers and spinners while Sunny to high pacers.

 

[sayon basak]

Then Holding is an idiot.

He actually played against him, a trait you and I will never possess. If he got that impression, who are we to call him an idiot?

 

[Johan]

anyway Lara hundreds against ATG pacemen

Glenn McGrath 1997
Glenn McGrath 1999
Glenn McGrath 1999
Glenn McGrath 1999
Glenn McGrath 2000
Glenn McGrath 2005
Shaun Pollock 2003
Shaun Pollock 2004

again, There's a clear pattern, I'll let people figure it out.

 

[DrWolverine]

He actually played against him, a trait you and I will never possess. If he got that impression, who are we to call him an idiot?

If he gives stupid silly opinion, he deserves it.

 

[DrWolverine]

anyway Lara hundreds against ATG pacemen

Glenn McGrath 1997
Glenn McGrath 1999
Glenn McGrath 1999
Glenn McGrath 1999
Glenn McGrath 2000
Glenn McGrath 2005
Shaun Pollock 2003
Shaun Pollock 2004

Not fast bowlers.
Medium pacers.

 

[Johan]

what Holding said was that Gavaskar was immovable on slow wickets but inconsistent on more pacer friendly wickets. Which is true, Gavaskar was better against high pacers than Lara but he wasn't necessarily better in pace friendly conditions.

 

[Johan]

Not fast bowlers.
Medium pacers.

Seamers, IE Lara is better against seamers.

 

[capt_Luffy]

what Holding said was that Gavaskar was immovable on slow wickets but inconsistent on more pacer friendly wickets. Which is true, Gavaskar was better against high pacers than Lara but he wasn't necessarily better in pace friendly conditions.

Does have a couple of tons to Thomson in Perth and Adelaide, when it was really fast.

 

[sayon basak]

If he gives stupid silly opinion, he deserves it.

BTW could you provide some evidence that the hundreds of Gavaskar you provided weren't in relatively easy conditions? If you aren't doing that, you aren't actually proving anything.

 

[capt_Luffy]

BTW could you provide some evidence that the hundreds of Gavaskar you provided weren't in relatively easy conditions? If you aren't doing that, you aren't actually proving anything.

BTW you know that we hardly take player's words over actual record, like Ever post WWI. And his Thomson tons were on some really fast tracks.

 

[subshakerz]

I'll take Lara's 132 in Perth in 96-97 over an entire series of making 50-55 in Australia but that doesn't mean Lara did not have consistency issues against top class pacers too.

Yeah except those top pacers troubled Lara far more.