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[subshakerz]

You completely forgot about Joe Root.

Root isn't an ATG, at least not yet.

 

[Johan]

If Ponting was one...

 

[subshakerz]

If Ponting was one...

Let's see after this coming Ashes...

 

[vidiq]

Root isn't an ATG, at least not yet.

He is

Root isn't an ATG, at least not yet.

If Joe Root is not an ATG,
Then Sachin, Lara, Gavaskar etc are also not ATG Batsman

 

[subshakerz]

He is

If Joe Root is not an ATG,
Then Sachin, Lara, Gavaskar etc are also not ATG Batsman
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It's not about total run output for me to be ATG. Root has relatively less peer rating and is poor in Australia. Still I think he could make it by end of career. I see him like Dravid, ATVG.

 

[vidiq]

It's not about total run output for me to be ATG. Root has relatively less peer rating and is poor in Australia. Still I think he could make it by end of career. I see him like Dravid, ATVG.

Dravid was poor in 3 countries (aus,sa ,sl)
Sachin was poor in 2 countries (sa,pak)

 

[capt_Luffy]

Dravid was poor in 3 countries (aus,sa ,sl)
Sachin was poor in 2 countries (sa,pak)

Sachin was poor in SA!!!!?

 

[Johan]

It's not about total run output for me to be ATG. Root has relatively less peer rating and is poor in Australia. Still I think he could make it by end of career. I see him like Dravid, ATVG.

Poor in Australia is good and all but peer reputation is such a ridiculously bad argument for modern players man

 

[vidiq]

Sachin was poor in SA!!!!?

Average 28 vs sa at home

It's not world class by any means TBH,
And even after 4-5 tours his average was below 40 in sa till 2010,
1989-2010( 21 years of career with below 40 average in sa is really poor)

 

[subshakerz]

Poor in Australia is good and all but peer reputation is such a ridiculously bad argument for modern players man

Not for me. To be ATG you need to be unanimously spoken about by peers in such terms, and he isn't.

 

[Thala_0710]

Average 28 vs sa at home

It's not world class by any means TBH,
And even after 4-5 tours his average was below 40 in sa till 2010,
1989-2010( 21 years of career with below 40 average in sa is really poor)

The first point is pretty irrelevant for being poor in SA.
Secondly why is 2010-11 just being ignored?

 

[subshakerz]

Average 28 vs sa at home

It's not world class by any means TBH,
And even after 4-5 tours his average was below 40 in sa till 2010,
1989-2010( 21 years of career with below 40 average in sa is really poor)

Tendulkar was still worldclass in SA where conditions are tougher, so being poorer at home is somewhat more forgivable compared to Root in Aus.

 

[subshakerz]

Dravid was poor in 3 countries (aus,sa ,sl)
Sachin was poor in 2 countries (sa,pak)

Sachin in Pak basically had a debut tour and one good and one bad tour. Overall it's not poor per se but just okay.

 

[vidiq]

The first point is pretty irrelevant for being poor in SA.
Secondly why is 2010-11 just being ignored?

Because no other batter is lucky enough to play 6-7 tours to increase his average above 40.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Sachin in Pak basically had a debut tour and one good and one bad tour. Overall it's not poor per se but just okay.

Averages 40 and has an ATG ton. It's perfectly fine. The SA one though is like so funny..... Especially given Sachin has arguments to be the best touring batsman in SA.

 

[Johan]

Not for me. To be ATG you need to be unanimously spoken about by peers in such terms, and he isn't.

First it was Smith who had peer reputation issues now it's Root, does anyone from this era have "good peer rep" or is just a buzzword to you?

 

[subshakerz]

Because no other batter is lucky enough to play 6-7 tours to increase his average above 40.

Ok but he got it over 40 with a near ATG tour against peak Steyn. That erases all doubts.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Smith, De Villiers, and Kohli had ATG level peer rating during their peaks iirc

Kohlis decline happened though and De Villiers retired early

 

[subshakerz]

First it was Smith who had peer reputation issues now it's Root, does anyone from this era have "good peer rep" or is just a buzzword to you?

Smith is comfortably better than Root on peer rep.

 

[vidiq]

Averages 40 and has an ATG ton. It's perfectly fine. The SA one though is like so funny..... Especially given Sachin has arguments to be the best touring batsman in SA.

Meaning of the above sentence In other words -
"Root will be a candidate for the argument of best overseas batsman in aus, if he score around 500 run in the upcoming Ashes."