South Africa team selection

[SeamUp]

That was a trend I noticed a while ago, and I do wonder if young batsmen are being encouraged to give the gloves a go so that they've got another string to their bow to potentially aid their selection. They don't necessarily have to be a full-time keeper, but being able to keep in an emergency just might get them the nod over someone who can't keep at all.

It can make selection a bit trickier though. Ideally you'd want the best keeper to be selected but if someone's got quite as good a keeper but is a better batsman then would the gains in potential runs scored make up for being poorer behind the stumps?

There won't be Richie Ryall & James Foster types again you would think. Ben Foakes maybe but he isn't bad at all with the bat.

Just think unless you make a number of obvious errors you can get by as a keeper now if you making decent runs.

Only have to see now in SA20 with guys like Stubbs, Ferreira & Breetzke keeping that T20 is opening up people's ideas to take the risk.

 

[SeamUp]

Highest scores by a EP or Warriors batsman

Stubbs just has Eric Rowan in his sights.

UPDATED now with Stubbs going past Eric Rowan.

1. Tristan Stubbs 285* v KZN Inland 2023/24
2. Eric Rowan 284 v Griqualand West 1945/46
3. Ashwell Prince 254 v Titans 2008/09
4. James Bryant 234* v NW 2002/03
5. Eddie Moore 228 v Dolphins 2019/20
6. Lorrie Wilmot 222* v Rhodesia 1965/66
7. John Waite 219 v Griqualand West 1950/51
8. Arno Jacobs 218* v Dolphins 2007/08
9. Phil Amm 214 v Transvaal 1988/89
10. Kepler Wessels 212 v Griqualand West 1991/92

 

[StephenZA]

The batsmen/wk is pretty much set in stone at international level. The question is always how much you can forgo on the wicket keeping part for the batting. What is nice is that if a whole lot of young batsmen keep getting wk experience and help from a young age, the chances of having a decent international wk/bat goes up hugely.

 

[StephenZA]

2. Tristan Stubbs 258* v KZN Inland 2023/24

When I first saw him I assumed he would be a power hitter that could maybe bowl/wk a bit... his ability to actually bat big in FC innings has been a true surprise and wonderful to see. I think he is an example of a player that has truly benefited from playing with international experience in the T20s.

 

[SeamUp]

When I first saw him I assumed he would be a power hitter that could maybe bowl/wk a bit... his ability to actually bat big in FC innings has been a true surprise and wonderful to see. I think he is an example of a player that has truly benefited from playing with international experience in the T20s.

I was the exact same. It's been a pleasant surprise. He seems to have a bit about him character wise too. Reminds me of KP with how tall he is at the crease and that long reach. Just has those sweeps and scoops from his hockey ability to add.

 

[Dendarii]

Hermann and Pillay must be kicking themselves. Out for 2 and 0 respectively, and the next two guys have gone really big.

 

[Marius]

Highest scores by a EP or Warriors batsman

Stubbs just has Eric Rowan in his sights.

UPDATED now with Stubbs going past Eric Rowan.

1. Tristan Stubbs 285* v KZN Inland 2023/24
2. Eric Rowan 284 v Griqualand West 1945/46
3. Ashwell Prince 254 v Titans 2008/09
4. James Bryant 234* v NW 2002/03
5. Eddie Moore 228 v Dolphins 2019/20
6. Lorrie Wilmot 222* v Rhodesia 1965/66
7. John Waite 219 v Griqualand West 1950/51
8. Arno Jacobs 218* v Dolphins 2007/08
9. Phil Amm 214 v Transvaal 1988/89
10. Kepler Wessels 212 v Griqualand West 1991/92

Where do you find these stats. A little while ago I was looking at stats for SA FC cricket and Wikipedia and Cricinfo was out of date. I actually updated the Wikipedia page on SA cricket records after De Zorzi got his trip but it's such a mission, it's like low-level coding (to me at least).

 

[SeamUp]

Where do you find these stats. A little while ago I was looking at stats for SA FC cricket and Wikipedia and Cricinfo was out of date. I actually updated the Wikipedia page on SA cricket records after De Zorzi got his trip but it's such a mission, it's like low-level coding (to me at least).

Cricket archive

Just started up my subscription again. Really is the place for lovers of scorecards like me

 

[Marius]

Cricket archive

Just started up my subscription again. Really is the place for lovers of scorecards like me

How much is it?

 

[SeamUp]

How much is it?

5 Pound per month. Also a yearly option of 50 Pound.

 

[Marius]

5 Pound per month. Also a yearly option of 50 Pound.

The way the ZAR's going that's going to be more than my mortgage payment soon

 

[Aidan11]

Triple century for Stubbs and still going.

Tuskers v Warriors - Cricket - BBC Sport

Find out the in depth batting and bowling figures for Tuskers v Warriors in the South Africa Domestic 4-Day Series on BBC Sport.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Good to see a batsman showing that determination to get a triple hundred ..
Is that the first triple hundred since Stephen Cook's 390 odd ?

 

[Stefan9]

Good to see a batsman showing that determination to get a triple hundred ..
Is that the first triple hundred since Stephen Cook's 390 odd ?

DE Zorzi got 304 vs knights in 2022.
There is also Marco Marais if we count the second division during franchise days in 2017.

 

[WpGuy]

WP producing some decent talent recently and keeping them is a good change. Galiem, Ntini (what's happened to him?), Smith, Cohen & Hamza left now, Bedders left and came back & Verreynne only one to stick around the whole time.

Agreed on Smith, very Puttick-esque & has long known how to score big hundreds. Funnily enough Puttick kept a bit as well.

Recently WP got through the schools system. Not sure how far James & Whitehead will go from last SAU19 team.

Smith
Bird
Prince
Kaplan
Mpongwana
Bayoumy
Waqu

Plus also, not sure if you know much but Wesley Bedja looks a find from club cricket? Opening bowler. 5-for last week.

I know zero about Wesley unfortunately. First 5 all playing provincial 4 can make proteas on potential. Last 2 played a few games for wp and James has play a few 4 day games for wp and nw. NTINI IS at tuskars seems outta favor atm. Doesn't get wickets and can't bat so no use .

 

[WpGuy]

When I first saw him I assumed he would be a power hitter that could maybe bowl/wk a bit... his ability to actually bat big in FC innings has been a true surprise and wonderful to see. I think he is an example of a player that has truly benefited from playing with international experience in the T20s.

I read that he started out as more a 5 day player and not t20 strike rates. He learnt tried to adapt to become t20 player also and better one day player. Now he seems to be working on 4 dayers again.

 

[Marius]

By my reckoning Stubbs is now the 13th Saffa to score a 300 in FC cricket.

Others:
- Stephen Cook
- Rilee Rossouw
- Daryll Cullinan
- Terence Lazard
- Graeme Smith*
- Jimmy Cook*
- Barry Richards*
- Hashim Amla
- Eric Rowan
- Andrea Agathangelou
- Marco Marais
- Tony de Zorzi

* Scored in English or Australian domestic cricket.

 

[Marius]

Also, are Jimmy and Stephen the first father-son pair to score FC 300s?

 

[SeamUp]

By my reckoning Stubbs is now the 13th Saffa to score a 300 in FC cricket.

Others:
- Stephen Cook
- Rilee Rossouw
- Daryll Cullinan
- Terence Lazard
- Graeme Smith*
- Jimmy Cook*
- Barry Richards*
- Hashim Amla
- Eric Rowan
- Andrea Agathangelou
- Marco Marais
- Tony de Zorzi

* Scored in English or Australian domestic cricket.

Agathangelou and Marais semi-pro?

 

[SeamUp]

Also, are Jimmy and Stephen the first father-son pair to score FC 300s?

Good chance.

Hanif & Shoaib Mohammed were 400+ & 200+

Geoff & Shaun Marsh were 300+ and 200+

Hylton & HD Ackerman were 200+ & 300+

Must be more father and son batsman though.