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New Zealand fast bowlers who are 'definitely' better than Kapil Dev
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Athlai
Not Terrible
On bowling alone Kapil ain't making the Australian 5th XI but they've had a ridiculous amount of talent.
TheJediBrah
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In all seriousness, no
trundler
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Is this the same simulation in which 29 average Bevan isn't weak against the short ball
the big bambino
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The OP has. Though I'd say just Bond, Cowie (and Jamieson will be).
srbhkshk
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I personally can't see how bowlers who didn't touch 100 test wickets are better than him.
Johan
U19 12th Man
Oh I am just copy pasting an old post I made on the same forum before , but hey if you think that debunking Kapil's failiure in England is related to arguing he was better then kiwis there , then maybe you need some real education rather then being a cheerleader on a forum.
the big bambino
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That's fine. But if that's the criteria then Kapil is always going to win it because of opportunity, not necessarily greatness. I mean I'm ok with it if someone chooses that as their reason. I think it's ok to look at other reasons to make up for the other's lack of opportunities. Cowie only played against Aus and Eng (both full strength allowing for injuries etc) and showed consistent form from ages 27 to 37 with a war intervening. Bond was a scary bowler. He could do what Kapil did at 10-15k quicker. Jamieson, on reflection, not yet.
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It's weird how kiwis are the most one eyed fan base on here. Imagine thinking a guy who played a handful of matches on pitches not discernible from the outfield qualifies for anything other than a solemn nod. Flem has it out for the high SR = talent batting meme but keeps falling for its bowling equivalent. Bond is a nobody ffs. Cowie I have more time for, he legit could've been great, but it's unfair to pick guys on potential alone in this sort of thing.
Johan
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Bond is def superior to dev , remained consistently amazing for almost a decade
| Year | Mat | O | M | R | W | 5w | 10w | Best | Avg | S/R | E/R |
2001 | 4 | 123.1 | 20 | 439 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 4/47 | 31.36 | 52.79 | 3.56 |
2002 | 4 | 119.2 | 31 | 412 | 24 | 2 | 0 | 5/78 | 17.17 | 29.83 | 3.45 |
2003 | 2 | 59.0 | 13 | 194 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 3/97 | 38.80 | 70.80 | 3.29 |
2005 | 2 | 47.0 | 14 | 120 | 13 | 1 | 1 | 6/51 | 9.23 | 21.69 | 2.55 |
2006 | 4 | 131.4 | 24 | 471 | 18 | 1 | 0 | 5/69 | 26.17 | 43.89 | 3.58 |
2007 | 1 | 33.0 | 2 | 133 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 4/73 | 26.60 | 39.60 | 4.03 |
2009 | 1 | 48.5 | 9 | 153 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 5/107 | 19.13 | 36.63 | 3.13 |
18 | 562.0 | 113 | 1922 | 87 | 5 | 1 | 6/51 | 22.09 | 38.76 | 3.42 |
trundler
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Shane Bond beats Kapil Dev because of his amazing longevity. Seen it all
Athlai
Not Terrible
Actually he needs 13 more wickets to be better than Dev.
Johan
U19 12th Man
I am incredibly biased toward Bond , I have to make excuses for Bond's tally of 18 matches over a decade.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Genuine question, would you say Cowie is also better than Anderson?
I don't really care about the Bond thing, Kapil could do whatever Kapil did 10 kph quicker if he was okay getting injured for 9 out of 10 matches he had to play,
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He needs to play two matches in a row and actually bowl on pitches suited to cricket.