Is there a team that can beat this Asian ODI XI?

[Migara]

Yes, in most people's top ten ODI batsmen ever.

Probably will make 9 - 10. He will strugglr to make top 6 of ATG batsmen. Tendulkar, Lara, Viv, Kohli, AB, Bevan, Dhoni nails top 7 places. Babar eventually may replace Bevan. He will make 2nd ATG XI, but first XI is pushing it.

 

[Migara]

Nah..

That too without considering fielding support and competition within the team.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=2;class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=6;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

Saqlain had best fast bowling support an ODI spinner ever had. Even with lesser support, Mendis nails it and takes wickets at better SR than Saqlain, against the oppositions you have selected

 

[Slifer]

Usually this would be the case for ROW XI. But Subcontinental players know their opponents very well. 90% of them understand the same language even (except Sri Lankans - but then you don't need much to say to Murali or Jayasuriya who are cricketing geniuses). Asian XI is easily more than sum of it's parts.

The super tests should have been against Asian XI, not ROW XI.

You really believe a team of Indians, Pakistanis and Sri Lankans would have more cohesion and comradery than Australia?? Haha I'll have whatever you're smoking

 

[Migara]

You really believe a team of Indians, Pakistanis and Sri Lankans would have more cohesion and comradery than Australia?? Haha I'll have whatever you're smoking

I am comparing them to World Xi that played Australia. Looks like you missed the plot by few miles.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Saqlain had best fast bowling support an ODI spinner ever had. Even with lesser support, Mendis nails it and takes wickets at better SR than Saqlain.

Saqlains avg is ATG league against top opponents unlike Murali and Mendis.

 

[subshakerz]

Minnow bashing probably. When it matters he only scores 17 off 35 and takes the pressure off the bowlers.

Sanga averages 43, 45, 47 , 40 and 39 against Australia, SA, England, NZ and India. The only team he truly sucked against was the WI. Pakistan was 35.

He averages higher away than at home, including 46 in Australia and 48 in England.

So how is he a minnow basher?

Desilva did great against Australia, 48. But didn't average more than 40 against anyone else. He averages 44 at home, 32 away and sucked in all SENA countries.

Again, you want to still say DeSilva is better, fine. But stop treating the guy like he is beyond Sanga's class.

 

[Slifer]

I am comparing them to World Xi that played Australia. Looks like you missed the plot by few miles.

Touché....

 

[Migara]

Saqlains avg is ATG league against top opponents unlike Murali and Mendis.

23.6 is not much different from 25. Mendis has the best SR, best wicket taker among spinners. The real deals are sub 21 averages

 

[Himannv]

So how is he a minnow basher?

Because he scores more against minnows. Except the UAE - averages 8 against him. Clearly a hack and a prank batsman in this format.

 

[subshakerz]

Because he scores more against minnows. Except the UAE - averages 8 against him. Clearly a hack and a prank batsman in this format.

Thanks for ignoring all those stats i just posted. Also Desilva scored plenty against minnows too. Without the minnow numbers, Desilva would likely average around 30.

 

[trundler]

I do not like Klusener in all time XIs because he really only had a handful of years as a regular. He batted at #8 more often than anywhere else so I'm not sure he should be selected as a top 7 batsman. His strike rate is phenomenal but I do think the average is heavily padded. I think Kapil is the perfect #7 for an time XI because his strike rate is even crazier and he's giving you 10 overs. Longevity holds back Saqlain to a lesser extent though his career was reasonably long but he's being compared to Murali. Saqlain has a few things going for him like being the only spinner who bowled routinely at the death without getting mauled and was ever bit a strike bowler in the league of yer Starcs and Donalds. In Asia I'd want both Saqlain and Murali in my team for sure.

 

[Himannv]

Thanks for ignoring all those stats i just posted. Also Desilva scored plenty against minnows too. Without the minnow numbers, Desilva would likely average around 30.

Sanga isn't fit to clean de Silva's boots.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Probably will make 9 - 10. He will strugglr to make top 6 of ATG batsmen. Tendulkar, Lara, Viv, Kohli, AB, Bevan, Dhoni nails top 7 places. Babar eventually may replace Bevan. He will make 2nd ATG XI, but first XI is pushing it.

I can think of lots of batsmen as good or better than Sanga at ODIs, but not many better in tests:

G Chappell, Lloyd, Zaheer Abbas, Turner, Greenidge, Haynes, Miandad, D Jones, M Crowe, Inzy, M Waugh, Jayasuriya, Ponting, Gilchrist, Symonds, Hussey, Hayden, R Taylor, Amla, T Dilshan, Rohit, Warner, Root, Williamson, Babar, QDK, Bairstow, and Butler.

 

[subshakerz]

I do not like Klusener in all time XIs because he really only had a handful of years as a regular. He batted at #8 more often than anywhere else so I'm not sure he should be selected as a top 7 batsman. His strike rate is phenomenal but I do think the average is heavily padded. I think Kapil is the perfect #7 for an time XI because his strike rate is even crazier and he's giving you 10 overs. Longevity holds back Saqlain to a lesser extent though his career was reasonably long but he's being compared to Murali. Saqlain has a few things going for him like being the only spinner who bowled routinely at the death without getting mauled and was ever bit a strike bowler in the league of yer Starcs and Donalds. In Asia I'd want both Saqlain and Murali in my team for sure.

Klusener would be fine at no.7 and his 99 exploits make him great in a chase. Kapil to me is more of a final overs blaster so I see him at no.8.

I think an ideal ODI team will have two allrounders anyways.

 

[trundler]

Klusener would be fine at no.7 and his 99 exploits make him great in a chase. Kapil to me is more of a final overs blaster so I see him at no.8.

I think an ideal ODI team will have two allrounders anyways.

That's one tournament. Yet you're against De Silva. I don't think the gap between their batting is anywhere as big as the state suggest and Kapil was a far better bowler.

 

[trundler]

By the way, has the world gone mad? Buttler vs De Villiers or Buttler is absolutely not a dilemma at this point in time.

 

[subshakerz]

That's one tournament. Yet you're against De Silva. I don't think the gap between their batting is anywhere as big as the state suggest and Kapil was a far better bowler.

Klusener still has good overall stats plus his WC performance, unlike DeSilva. A batting average over 40 and bowling average under 30.

As for Kapil vs Klusener, I just think they suit different positions. But between them it is hard for me to choose.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

By the way, has the world gone mad? Buttler vs De Villiers or Buttler is absolutely not a dilemma at this point in time.

Absolutely. You can just pick both.

 

[Migara]

I can think of lots of batsmen as good or better than Sanga at ODIs, but not many better in tests:

G Chappell, Lloyd, Zaheer Abbas, Turner, Greenidge, Haynes, Miandad, D Jones, M Crowe, Inzy, M Waugh, Jayasuriya, Ponting, Gilchrist, Symonds, Hussey, Hayden, R Taylor, Amla, T Dilshan, Rohit, Warner, Root, Williamson, Babar, QDK, Bairstow, and Butler.

Agree with you. Sanga's ODI status is overrated because of the insane purple patche he had few years before retirement, and retiring on a smoking high too.

 

[Migara]

Saqlain has a few things going for him like being the only spinner who bowled routinely at the death without getting mauled and was ever bit a strike bowler in the league of yer Starcs and Donalds. In Asia I'd want both Saqlain and Murali in my team for sure.

Jayasuriya says, "Son, I've done it few years before him, and even in the WC i did that"