Better test batsman? Warne, Akram, Lindwall or Marshall?

[honestbharani]

Warne got some handy runs in the 96 QF against NZ

Yeah think we got one of the balls he hit for a 6 actually

 

[mr_mister]

Yeah think we got one of the balls he hit for a 6 actually

You were at the game?

 

[honestbharani]

Yep... was a volunteer kid. Moved chairs and stuff around the pavilion and media boxes etc.

 

[Engle]

Have heard at least once in some talk show on all rounders of 80s that one could add Marshall to the fab 4 all rounders to make it fab 5.

There is very little pressure if any for a specialist bowler to perform well with the willow. Thus, their batting averages can be a credible reflection of their batsmanship. I would venture to say that a bowler who breaches a batting average of 20 could be talked about as AR material as they would need to perform consistently rather than the odd high score. Marshall falls short - it would be a stretch to label him as AR material.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

 

[subshakerz]

Even though Akram was a better bat, Warne certainly looked technique wise a proper batsman. Whereas with Akram his entire technique seemed built for hoiks and slogs.

 

[Red]

Without wading into the debate too heavily, I always thought Shaun Pollock was an excellent batsman who could've batted top 6 in plenty of teams. Seemed like a guy who could've averaged 40 without a bowling workload and with more focus on his batting

 

[mr_mister]

Hadlee vs Pollock a decent debate possibly

 

[mr_mister]

And where to place Davidson a good head scratcher too. FC stats basically show he was a full all-rounder but he never got it going in tests much

 

[trundler]

Hadlee vs Pollock a decent debate possibly

Throw Benaud in there

 

[Nintendo]

Mitchell marsh

 

[Bahseph]

I feel like we use the eye test and potential very synonomously with lower order bats in particular. A guy who plays a couple of clean drives/cuts in the lower order is going to be marked down as someone with a lot of potential, regardless of glaring weaknesses

The Kagiso "Has a Test hundred in him" Rabada effect.

 

[harsh.ag]

But they do have a test hundred in them on absolute roads.

As opposed to ones with better techniques who would at most get 50 odd

 

[Coronis]

Warne got some handy runs in the 96 QF against NZ

If its not a WC final it doesn’t matter.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Yeah, tons aren't the be all and end all.

I mean, Saqlain and Yasir Shah both have one, and (say) big Vern Philander and Graeme Swann didn't and the latter two were both nudging bowling allrounder status.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

In the early days Marshall was quite lazy as a batsman, not dissimilar to Archer. Obviously a bit of talent but no real application.

 

[Blenkinsop]

Ashley Giles ftw

 

[Migara]

Throw Benaud in there

Benaud was not a comparable bowler

 

[Daemon]

Proctor?

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Proctor?

Better batsman than Kapil and Botham.