Burgey
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Yeah was a bit odd he didn't take them after the first two balls at least.
Interesting.
Very very interesting is all I'm saying. Hmmmmm.
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Interesting.
Very very interesting is all I'm saying. Hmmmmm.
quincywagstaff
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Yep, don't like this modern trend at all. Especially off the first ball of the over when there was still enough left where Walsh could get a single or so.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
It makes sense if the guy at the other end is like an Indian tailender but otherwise, you always run. MSD made it look like a cool thing and now everyone wants to copy but they should remember even MS has failed and it is far easier to take the more pragmatic approach most of the times.
Did not know Walsh can bat, btw. Thought he was a tailender.
Did not know Walsh can bat, btw. Thought he was a tailender.
Prince EWS
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Yeah that seemed more like ego than strategy.
Prince EWS
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He used to bat 5 or 6 for the USA when he played for them. Obviously a lower level of cricket but he's not the bunny his FC record might make you think.
Burgey
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Stocks in Spikey Inc are plummeting, between NSW proving his "I hate short lockdowns they don't make a difference" strategy a dud, and now his favoured "Don't run singles" tactical approach to T20 chases proving a disaster for West Indian cricket.
Sack Spikey.
And Langer.
Sack Spikey.
And Langer.
quincywagstaff
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Was a terrific game overall, T20 international cricket at its best.
Great comeback from Starc after first two games.
If Australia had lost, would struggle to think of a better all-round performance in a T20 international than Marsh's on a losing side.
Great comeback from Starc after first two games.
If Australia had lost, would struggle to think of a better all-round performance in a T20 international than Marsh's on a losing side.
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I'm on the front lines at my job so I'm not watching, but my biggest point in the don't take singles argument is that so often they wait until the 20th over to start doing management of the strike which ends up defeating the entire purpose. Obviously that doesn't apply today, and I don't know much about Walsh's batting, but with 10 needed to win after a single and Walsh not having faced a ball yet, I would probably back Russell in again.
Sack Langer for picking two Tasmanians. No wonder we almost lost.
Mixed on Russell strategy - I think its one of those things where if Russell gets a single, then Walsh doesn't get off strike for 2 or 3 balls and doesn't hit a boundary - the strategy isn't questioned at worst Walsh is blamed. Very few people consider what might have happened if Russell had 6 straight balls to hit two 6s or a 6 and a 4 for a Super Over. If Russell retains the strike and fails to get the two 6s the strategy is absolutely questioned. Is it that different to a team jogging a 1 to have the established batsman on strike late in an innings when they could get a 2 if they really wanted to and ran hard - I'd be interested what the numbers look like in these situations with these 2 approaches when you consider an elite death overs batsman with a bowler who can bat who hasn't yet faced a delivery.
What would be the messaging to Walsh? If its get a single best case scenario is 11 of 6 becomes 9 off 4. In such a case the question becomes 11 off 5 or 9 off 4 - both with Russell on strike.
If the messaging is more back yourself and use your best judgement it becomes a case of 10 off 5 with Walsh Jr on strike rather than 11 off 5 with Russell on strike - I'm not sure if Australia would be too upset if they were defending one fewer run with 5 balls to go but bowling to Walsh Jr instead of Russell.
11 is an inbetween sort of target, I think if it was 8 I'd be more for running the single, if it was 15/16 I would be more firmly in Russell's camp but I don't think the call is the calamity made out.
What would be the messaging to Walsh? If its get a single best case scenario is 11 of 6 becomes 9 off 4. In such a case the question becomes 11 off 5 or 9 off 4 - both with Russell on strike.
If the messaging is more back yourself and use your best judgement it becomes a case of 10 off 5 with Walsh Jr on strike rather than 11 off 5 with Russell on strike - I'm not sure if Australia would be too upset if they were defending one fewer run with 5 balls to go but bowling to Walsh Jr instead of Russell.
11 is an inbetween sort of target, I think if it was 8 I'd be more for running the single, if it was 15/16 I would be more firmly in Russell's camp but I don't think the call is the calamity made out.
Burgey
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This is a very good point tbh
sunilz
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Remember this years IPL match.
6 needed of 2 balls and Sanju Samson didn't take single despite Chris Morris at other end.
Prince EWS
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Man I'm not even sure Samson is actually more likely to hit a 6 than Morris, let alone so much so that "single, four, tie" is superseded as an option.
sunilz
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He was in a very good form. Had actually scored 115 on 61 balls before that. But still it was a very wrong decision by him and was strongly criticised after the match.