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Sachin Tendulkar tribute

Burgey

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When he was playing, aside from excellent batting and being a rubbish skipper, what did Tendulkar “give to his country?”

I always find this an odd thing in relation to sportspeople in general. Same goes for Bradman for that matter, except of course he was a very effective captain in contrast to Tendulkar who couldn’t cut it, as well as being twice the batsman.

He may have a charitable foundation, and if he does good on him, but that basically puts him on par with most other cricketers with high profiles - Warne, McGrath, Ponting, Botham, Steve Waugh, Hayden etc etc. Loads of them around and all very worthy in their own right.

Did he lead a democratic revolt against a totalitarian regime? Did he bring drinkable water to the 1/4 of the country which now has it? Did he resolve the Kashmir dispute? Take over the mantle from Mother Theresa at the Black Hole? Serious question WRT what he gave to his country, because it seems to me he barely even gave an interview.
 
srbhkshk

srbhkshk

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Burgey said:
When he was playing, aside from excellent batting and being a rubbish skipper, what did Tendulkar “give to his country?”

I always find this an odd thing in relation to sportspeople in general. Same goes for Bradman for that matter, except of course he was a very effective captain in contrast to Tendulkar who couldn’t cut it, as well as being twice the batsman.

He may have a charitable foundation, and if he does good on him, but that basically puts him on par with most other cricketers with high profiles - Warne, McGrath, Ponting, Botham, Steve Waugh, Hayden etc etc. Loads of them around and all very worthy in their own right.

Did he lead a democratic revolt against a totalitarian regime? Did he bring drinkable water to the 1/4 of the country which now has it? Did he resolve the Kashmir dispute? Take over the mantle from Mother Theresa at the Black Hole? Serious question WRT what he gave to his country, because it seems to me he barely even gave an interview.
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90s were tumultous times for India, economy in free fall, religious violence, crap cricket team, he brought hope.
 
Burgey

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Let me tell you something, my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
 
jimmy101

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"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man" - Friedrich Nietzsche.
 
Kirkut

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srbhkshk said:
90s were tumultous times for India, economy in free fall, religious violence, crap cricket team, he brought hope.
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That is a bit exaggerated regarding 90s. In the 90s slowly colour television became common, before that all cricket came in radio. With colour television and 83 world cup win, cricket gradually became popular in India and peaked in late 90s and early 2000s, at the same time when Tendulkar was also at his peak. Which is why there is so much craze. If Kohli was playing at that time, his craze would be the same as Sachin's.
 
jimmy101

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When did they first launch those 24/7 cricket channels on Indian pay TV? We could use one of those in Australia.
 
Senile Sentry

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Kirkut said:
That is a bit exaggerated regarding 90s. In the 90s slowly colour television became common, before that all cricket came in radio. With colour television and 83 world cup win, cricket gradually became popular in India and peaked in late 90s and early 2000s, at the same time when Tendulkar was also at his peak. Which is why there is so much craze. If Kohli was playing at that time, his craze would be the same as Sachin's.
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Also a whole generation which grew up with Tendulkar. Came into spotlight as a 16 year old kid. Outsmarted opponents elder by a decade or more. For a nation that was still insecure and craving international recognition, Tendulkar became a fulcrum. Him getting invited to playing for Yorkshire was celebrated. And his humility and level handedness amidst all the accumulating adulation and riches, his focus and determination, and the usual "lone standing warrior" persona appealed to the burgeoning middle class sensibilities of the billion big people. Here was a role model who was scored by children and teenagers and also their parents. He became God literally for them.

Since then India has evolved so has it's cricket team. Heroes who were in short supply back then are now not. Sensibilities and emotional dependencies of today's India have broadened in scope and coverage. International acclaim is sought but not desperately. Indians have gone to head mighty corporates world wide.

Hence I am not quite sure Kohli even in Tendulkars age would have been so successful given his initial troublesome days.
 
jimmy101

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Senile Sentry said:
Also a whole generation which grew up with Tendulkar. Came into spotlight as a 16 year old kid. Outsmarted opponents elder by a decade or more. For a nation that was still insecure and craving international recognition, Tendulkar became a fulcrum. Him getting invited to playing for Yorkshire was celebrated. And his humility and level handedness amidst all the accumulating adulation and riches, his focus and determination, and the usual "lone standing warrior" persona appealed to the burgeoning middle class sensibilities of the billion big people. Here was a role model who was scored by children and teenagers and also their parents. He became God literally for them.

Since then India has evolved so has it's cricket team. Heroes who were in short supply back then are now not. Sensibilities and emotional dependencies of today's India have broadened in scope and coverage. International acclaim is sought but not desperately. Indians have gone to head mighty corporates world wide.

Hence I am not quite sure Kohli even in Tendulkars age would have been so successful given his initial troublesome days.
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What about Gavaskar's effect on the population? Surely he must have been Sachin before there was Sachin.
 
Prince EWS

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jimmy101 said:
When did they first launch those 24/7 cricket channels on Indian pay TV? We could use one of those in Australia.
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Is this some kind of weird extension of the "what are you guys talking about? there's no match today" posts in tour threads or something?
 
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