Test XI for The Last Quarter Century

[cnerd123]

2018 Ponting would actually be pretty terrific too hey. Never thought about it, but he could very well have been Kohli-esque with better fielding.

2018 Bevan would have been so good. Basically Mike Hussey who bowled some useful chinamen.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

You're late to the thread Stephen

Mr. Miyagi is entitled to pick who he likes and doesn't have to justify his selections to anyone. If you want him to engage in a discussion about adjusting stats for eras, you'll need to make a new thread, and then he will only engage you if he's inclined to do so

If you don't like his posts you can block him.

That's where we landed.

This is an accurate assessment. You have taken liberties on 'justify' al thought strictly true (as you want to go far further into discussing adjustments but that is implictly acknowledged with your next sentence after I told you I preferred Buttler's strike rate to Dhoni's), but overall, the sentiments are right. Well done.

 

[TheJediBrah]

2018 Bevan would have been so good. Basically Mike Hussey who bowled some useful chinamen.

Useful for the batsmen facing him maybe. Bevan bowled 4 log hops and 3 full tosses every over. And yes I know that doesn't make sense. His bowling was just that loose.

 

[cnerd123]

Useful for the batsmen facing him maybe. Bevan bowled 4 log hops and 3 full tosses every over. And yes I know that doesn't make sense. His bowling was just that loose.

Sounds like a regular wristspinner tbh

 

[Burgey]

Mr Miyagi is actually doing the impossible here and making ***** seem the reasonable party to a discussion on anything.

 

[cnerd123]

Mr Miyagi is actually doing the impossible here and making ***** seem the reasonable party to a discussion on anything.

Yea honestly when TJB and I are the reasonable ones in a thread, you know you've ****ed up

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Yea honestly when TJB and I are the reasonable ones in a thread, you know you've ****ed up

Lessons I've Learned and Thoughts About Life, Love, and Happiness: Can two people disagree and both be right?

Or if you want to get technical:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_opposition

 

[Daemon]

I still can't get iver the bloke who picked Russell

 

[TheJediBrah]

I still can't get iver the bloke who picked Russell

Yeah, I mean presumably ATG XIs would have more frequent drug testing and there's no way a steroid-free Dre Russ could be good enough. Without the steroids he's basically a less-coordinated Stuart Binny.

 

[Daemon]

Anyways, if all of Ajmal and Narine wickets are deemed legal (they aren't but lets pretend for a bit), where would you guys rank them among the ODI spinners?

Ajmal would be #2 for me after Murali.

 

[Burgey]

Hits a lot of DLF Maximums.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Anyways, if all of Ajmal and Narine wickets are deemed legal (they aren't but lets pretend for a bit), where would you guys rank them among the ODI spinners?

Ajmal would be #2 for me after Murali.

Does Saqlain not exist anymore?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Anyways, if all of Ajmal and Narine wickets are deemed legal (they aren't but lets pretend for a bit), where would you guys rank them among the ODI spinners?

Ajmal would be #2 for me after Murali.

Yeah probably 2 and 3ish. Competing with the likes of Warne, Hogg and Saqlain.

 

[Daemon]

Does Saqlain not exist anymore?

Saqlain had similar numbers in an easier era

 

[cnerd123]

Saqlain is easily number 3 behind Murali and Warne in ODIs

Ajmal would be up there. Narine not so much. Just 65 ODIs, and an average of 26 and econ of 4 is great but not ATG.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/jos-buttler-has-gone-ahead-of-ms-dhoni-says-michael-vaughan

"The Indians will go nuts because they’ll say ‘there’s MS Dhoni’. Well, I think Buttler’s just gone ahead of MS Dhoni because of his approach and because of the power he brings," he [Michael Vaughan] told BT Sports.


Author's Take

It is not surprising to hear of comments like these where Vaughan has hailed Buttler’s performances better than that of India’s limited-overs specialist Dhoni.

Of late, the Indian veteran has been struggling to find the right flow and maintain the strike rate as per the demands of the modern game – his former teammates VVS Laxman and Ajit Agarkar had even questioned his abilities – whereas Buttler has developed himself into one of the most threatening one-day batsmen.

https://www.mensxp.com/sports/crick...y-no-one-can-mess-with-indian-cricketers.html

So, when former England captain Michael Vaughan decided to conduct a poll on Twitter asking fans to pick between MS Dhoni and Jos Buttler, little did he know that his harmless comparison between the two cricketers would spark a massive outrage on the micro-blogging website.

Taking to Twitter, Vaughan asked fans: "Intrigued what you all think...You are allowed 1 of these 2 (Dhoni and Buttler) now in your team...Who you going for on present form!??".

With over 2,500 retweets and over 2,200 likes, Vaughan's tweet has attracted a massive response from the cricket fans, with 61 percent voting for Dhoni against Buttler.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-in-trouble/story-8nJZcofrGa1qhytXQAUcmL.html

How a poll on MS Dhoni and Jos Buttler put Michael Vaughan in trouble

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...regrets-running-on-twitter-1152115-2018-01-23

Former England captain Michael Vaughan learnt the hard way that a comparison between a swashbuckling English wicketkeeper and an Indian cricket legend is not a good idea.

Especially when that Indian legend has more followers on social media and fans around the world than Vaughan and the English wicketkeeper in question combined.

Vaughan on Monday ran a poll on which wicketkeeper-batsman should be in a playing XI based on current form. The choice was between star English cricketer Jos Buttler and none other than MS Dhoni.

The 43-year-old's poll question read - "Intrigued what you all think...You are allowed 1 of these 2 now in your team... Who you going for on present form "

Just for the record, when this article was being written, Dhoni was leading by 60% of the total 55,430 votes.

Almost 12 hours after he posted the poll online Vaughan conceded - "Note to self .... Never run a poll asking people to choose an England player over an Indian Player on here ... !!!!!"

'MS Dhoni Is God, Jos Buttler Is Human': Fans Slam Michael Vaughan For Comparison

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/ms-...s-slam-michael-vaughan-for-comparison-1803782

Wow.

Interesting.

 

[cnerd123]

let it go man

 

[harsh.ag]

Dhoni was leading by 60% of the total 55,430 votes.

Jeez IndiaToday. Get an editor.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

let it go man

I have.

What amazes me is the deliberate and organised trolling that Vaughan suffered for the poll. And the way it is reported.

The-Lying-Lama @KyaUkhaadLega

Hey Indian Twitter, pls do your thing, Thanks. https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/955368502839398402 …
05:03 - 23 Jan 2018

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At one point, he pretty much embodied the ‘sour grapes’ theory.

Now see, you’d think he had learnt his lesson, that Indian cricket fans just by sheer number could win this poll. But no! Michael Vaughan once again ‘asked for it’ by posting another nonsensical poll, pitting two Indian stalwarts against each other!

The gall on this man, right?
Indian Twitter lay in wait to ambush him over this poll too. But I think, this one tweet sums up the entire episode too damn well!

Major Lagaan feels no? Sudhar jaao, Michael Vaughan!

https://www.storypick.com/michael-vaughan-poll-trolled/

 

[cnerd123]

Citing Vaughan as a cricket expert and trying to earn sympathy for suffering the same plight as him is a new low

Honestly if your opinions are mirrored by Vaughan then you need to look yourself in the mirror and think about where you are going wrong