Satyanash89
Banned
Rahane absolutely needs to come in now. Dont care even if they dont have the balls to drop Sachin, just stick him at no.6... anyone but Raina.... please 
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centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
if they brought raina back for the 15th time, i'd root for england.Rahane absolutely needs to come in now. Dont care even if they dont have the balls to drop Sachin, just stick him at no.6... anyone but Raina.... please
Teja.
Global Moderator
The biggest fault of the system was making the **** **** feel entitled to a spot in the side for the next 30 tests because he bowled one good spell in Perth (and ended up with figures of 3 - 115 even in that innings)
Pains me to think he was picked ahead of Praveen for so many years. Not good enough to lace Praveen's boots itbt.
Satyanash89
Banned
Where the hell IS praveen btw?
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Why? He wasn't in the squad.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
They are playing Joy Division on brass in the stands
^^^Swann, Swann will tear you apart again.
It's a very old Barmy Army stand-by. Find it mildly annoying as it's paled one of my favourite songs, but excellent choice of source material for all that.
Genuine lol there.
Was just hideous, tbh. As Ishant, Ojha and (especially) Ashwin have showed it's hardly a minefield, so the lack of application from the captain was criminal.
Dhoni's a very rich man already, if he CBF with tests anymore surely he can afford to step aside.
#6 material already, IMHO. Dump Yuvi and promote him.
Hate to be too ****ish about other countries' players, but boy there are some mental midgets in this Indian side.
It's the country of Gavaskar, Ganguly and Dravid, ffs. Whilst the former two might've not been everyone's cup of tea they always stood up to be counted.
Nah, **** that. Kohli, Pujara or (my vote) Ashwin, surely? Give it to a kid with a future rather than someone with a promising cricketing career behind them.
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Arachnodouche
International Captain
I think the time is past when one kept these guys in knowing there's nobody better in the country to replace them. It's the Einstein thing, insanity is when you keep doing the same thing and expect different results. I'd rather have someone who's hungry and itching to prove himself than persist with the same lot. Even as irrelevant fans, one has to be honest and stop making allowances for lack of balls and gumption.
The feeling of stagnation is so overwhelming right now.
The feeling of stagnation is so overwhelming right now.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I love it when Teja posts about Ishant. So true. One player who I never bought into the hype for at all. It's not been a case of him not being handled properly or whatever; he's just not that good. Never has been.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Neither was anyone else apart from Rahane and I don't think they'll bat Rahane at 6 (even though I think they should).
They haven't actually named a squad for the fourth Test yet so you watch, Raina will be in it.
smash84
The Tiger King
yes please. Anybody have the answer to this?
Arachnodouche
International Captain
He was, four years ago. For a 19 year old rookie, he had the lot. But instead of a somewhat raw action being bettered with more exposure, it's somehow ended **** up for him. Tragedy, really.
Satyanash89
Banned
Id want to but id probably kill myself.
Its mindboggling how many tests Yuvraj, Ishant and Raina have played when anyone with a brain can see that they arent test standard. People talk about Tendulkar holding up a spot in the side from a youngster... these three have been far, far worse.
Theyre a tumour on the indian team (oh the irony in yuvraj's case, i know
) which the BCCI for some reason doesnt want to remove
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I raised the option of pulling a South Africa ala Graeme Smith with Kohli, but you don't feed the new captain to the wolves.
If we were going to name a new captain it had to be when they at least were not going to have 6/7 new players.
Zaheer, Dhoni, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj are all near the end of their career or near the end of whether they will be in the team. That is too many newbies to feed Kohli a bunch of losses whilst he's trying to establish himself.
I was for Kohli being captain, and if he was given it I wouldn't be upset. But now that he's tryin to establish himself as a batsman and going through a bad series, not worth killing him with a team of n00bs. Same with Pujara.
Stop-gap needs to be implemented.
cnerd123
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He was good relative to his age at the time.
On absolute skills, he's barely Test class, would only get into BD and Zimbabwe IMO.
cnerd123
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Not going to go into too much again but it's fair to say I disagree and I disagreed four years ago as well; my old posts will be consistent with that. I tried to keep an open mind about Ishant because of what everyone else was saying but I never saw it. Jono to confirm.
I'm still tasting Sreesanth's failures but Sharma was one I never bought into.
smash84
The Tiger King
had to really chuckle at the use of this analogyId want to but id probably kill myself.
Its mindboggling how many tests Yuvraj, Ishant and Raina have played when anyone with a brain can see that they arent test standard. People talk about Tendulkar holding up a spot in the side from a youngster... these three have been far, far worse.
Theyre a tumour on the indian team (oh the irony in yuvraj's case, i know
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Yeah PEWS was never convinced.
I wasn't convinced he'd be a gun, but I was convinced he had what it took. Right now its all speculative to debate whether he had the base to be a good bowler or not. I mean you can argue height, the jaffer bowls he could bowl etc. But then the naysayers can say he's never had a very good series, so there is no evidence of there ever being a foundation of quality.
End result is the same though, Ishant is ****.
Sreesanth is **** too though so Teja and PEWS are 1 win 1 loss.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
he was acually awesome in 2008 for a 19/20 yo.
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stats back it up too.