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*Official* Third Test at the WACA
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Evil Scotsman
There's no doubt that a cameo from Kevin Pietersen is more entertaining to watch, but you're fooling no-one if you're arguing you wouldn't have enjoyed Katich racking up 235* and 148 the way Cook did.
edit: it's funnier because you're bagging Cook, who's accumulated mountains of runs watchfully, but bagging Ponting and Clarke because they're not being watchful and throwing their wickets away. Make your mind up.
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Social, as is often the case, has a fair point but is just being a bit of a dick about it. You don't have to find a batsman aesthetically pleasing to acknowledge his quality. All he's saying is that Cook has an ugly technique to watch. It's not because of his scoring rate or his boundary runs percentage so telling him to go and watch T20 misses his point, and he's not saying he's crap either. People say it about Katich all the time for example - obviously it's a very subjective thing but I'd be surprised if it wasn't common.
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Jacknife
International Captain
When he's racking up hundreds I'll watch him all day.
tooextracool
International Coach
Mate, this is test match cricket. I dont know what you have been doing over the past 20 years or what you expect it to be, but anybody who sits down and watches a game for 8 hours a day for 5 days probably needs a life. This is fundamentally why we cant widen the audience for this sport.
You coming in here and telling us that 'Effective Player X' is boring is like someone walking to a chess match between Kasaparov and Anand and telling them that they need to increase their chances of getting checkmated because their game is boring to watch.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I don't think he was actually suggesting that Cook go out of his way to become better to watch at the expense of run-scoring...
Jacknife
International Captain
Don't agree with that about KP, in every side there is room for both kinds of players, the ones who occupy the crease and try to accumulate runs and there is room for players like KP who can take the game away from a team in a session, but on the flip side can nick out while being aggressive, both good to watch.
tooextracool
International Coach
Does suggesting that Cook and Strauss play more straight drives not count?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I think he was just saying that the fact they don't makes them ugly to watch; not that they should actually play them more to the detriment of the team.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Haha I liked that. Very nice.
tooextracool
International Coach
Im not saying theres no room for him or that hes a bad player. Whatever works for him works for him and its why he's been successful. The bottom line is that I don't exactly enjoy watching him bat because his brain is up his arse and theres usually no method or strategy behind the way he plays. Makes for an attractive highlight package yes but thats pretty much it.
Jacknife
International Captain
But I do think there is a method and a strategy to the way he plays, you can tell when he talks about cricket that he thinks about what he's doing out there, the way he moves around the crease to eliminate risk and to still play the shots he likes, the way he invents shots, I just can't see how you can say that about him. He's obviously been out of form for a year over, but saying basically he's good for a few shots and his brain his up his arse is far from the truth imo.
tooextracool
International Coach
Okay, that was a bit of an exaggeration to get my point across, but for the most part its true. The guy has been waltzing down the pitch to Asif even though he's been made to look clueless every single time in doing that. You'd think if it hasnt been working the last 20 times, he'd change it and realize that he needed that extra time by staying back in the crease. Similarly, his ego gets the most of him on many an occasion and he ends up playing a daft shot and getting himself out. Its just pathetic to watch sometimes, much like watching a good singer sing a bad song.
Jacknife
International Captain
He admitted himself his confidence was shot, when playing against Asif and that's the kind of thing you do with no confidence, to try to get you playing again. But with a player like KP you have to take the rough with the smooth, because at the end of the day he averages nigh on 50 so he must be doing something right, even after his long stretch with injury and form. Me personally, I think he's one of the best players to watch in the world when he's in form and those other players who maybe don't take the risks that KP does, still find ways to get out.But you can appreciate both styles of player, it would be boring if all batsmen played the same.
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tooextracool
International Coach
Thats BS though. He did it all summer long against Asif in 2006 while he was still in form.
Jacknife
International Captain
He does it to all bowlers especially the ones at 80mph, and Asif only got him once all series in 2006 and he averaged 50 in that series. Mate, you've obviously got your point of view and nothing I say will change that.
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IIRC, TEC was one of the multitude calling for Cook to be dropped recently whilst little ole me, who wouldnt walk across the road to watch him bat, was one of the select few who supported him
Oh, the irony