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Why no crowd barricades?

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Obviously fences are a bad idea but a moat (the type that has been used at football and elsewhere over the years) would easily work.

The players need to be protected. This is an area where modern cricket is better than before and it needs to continue.

That idiot today needs to go down for that rugby tackle and there needs to be an official apology from a lot of different people.
 

DingDong

State Captain
seriously though guys its a very dangerous situation. latif was lucky that guy was harmless drunk but what if it happens again and somebody gets a serious injury? i would say for now waca will need to at least double the security and if it happens again then i think barricades are a must.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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I don't know about doubling security. They just need better trained security. Not slugs who rest on their heels. If fielders can take a few steps in anticipation with every ball bowled, why not the security? Get them in shape and teach them how to cut down the angles.
 

DingDong

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seriously though guys its a very dangerous situation. latif was lucky that guy was harmless drunk but what if it happens again and somebody gets a serious injury? i would say for now waca will need to at least double the security and if it happens again then i think barricades are a must.
 

slowfinger

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Pitch intruders run the risk of Shahid Afridi either pirhouetting on them with his studs or biting them. Personally I wouldn't risk it

:laugh::laugh: Ouch that would hurt, rubber studs, please. Also he would need pretty fine teeth to do that.

Obviously fences are a bad idea but a moat (the type that has been used at football and elsewhere over the years) would easily work.

The players need to be protected. This is an area where modern cricket is better than before and it needs to continue.

That idiot today needs to go down for that rugby tackle and there needs to be an official apology from a lot of different people.
Hit a sixer, where is it?:ph34r::ph34r:
 

Uppercut

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Obviously fences are a bad idea but a moat (the type that has been used at football and elsewhere over the years) would easily work.

The players need to be protected. This is an area where modern cricket is better than before and it needs to continue.
Don't really agree at all, but then I'm looking at it from an English/Irish perspective and the fact that our cricketers aren't treated like gods is an unequivocal good thing. I like that fans are able to take the piss out of Shane Warne when he's fielding on the boundary. Cricket need not take itself so seriously. Not here anyway. Maybe elsewhere this kind of thing is necessary.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

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A dangerous knee jerk here.

I'd rather they stopped selling alcohol than put up barriers, but either is way too far.

Pitch invaders get massive fines these days, that idiot will get a deserved punishment.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Don't really agree at all, but then I'm looking at it from an English/Irish perspective and the fact that our cricketers aren't treated like gods is an unequivocal good thing. I like that fans are able to take the piss out of Shane Warne when he's fielding on the boundary. Cricket need not take itself so seriously. Not here anyway. Maybe elsewhere this kind of thing is necessary.
They don't really have to be treated as gods for the point to stand though. I mean, a fielder's just minding his business and focusing on the game at hand. The some drunk idiot rugby tackles him from behind, he twists his knees and is out for several months. That's his livelihood being affected by something completely avoidable and unacceptable. Sledging players on the boundary can be seen as a bit of fun, physically attacking them is not, even in jest.
 

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They don't really have to be treated as gods for the point to stand though. I mean, a fielder's just minding his business and focusing on the game at hand. The some drunk idiot rugby tackles him from behind, he twists his knees and is out for several months. That's his livelihood being affected by something completely avoidable and unacceptable. Sledging players on the boundary can be seen as a bit of fun, physically attacking them is not, even in jest.
No, but I don't think it's a really over-the-top measure to prevent the one idiot who invades a pitch to do something that might injure someone 0.001% of the time.

What's the precedent here? Have there been any high-profile incidents involving a player being injured by an intruding spectator?
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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No, but I don't think it's a really over-the-top measure to prevent the one idiot who invades a pitch to do something that might injure someone 0.001% of the time.

What's the precedent here? Have there been any high-profile incidents involving a player being injured by an intruding spectator?
Must they wait for something to happen before they take simple steps to avoid it? Why is reactivity to preferred to proactivity? Anyone can see how a player could get injured in such a situation, and I'm certain that idiots running onto the field don't think to themselves, "How can I tackle this guy to ensure that there's only a 0.001% risk of injury? Because I want to be sensible and safe about this."
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Don't really agree at all, but then I'm looking at it from an English/Irish perspective and the fact that our cricketers aren't treated like gods is an unequivocal good thing. I like that fans are able to take the piss out of Shane Warne when he's fielding on the boundary. Cricket need not take itself so seriously. Not here anyway. Maybe elsewhere this kind of thing is necessary.
How would a 2 yard moat prevent that?

By the way, England has a long history of pitch invasions (although not all by the home fans).
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
What's the precedent here? Have there been any high-profile incidents involving a player being injured by an intruding spectator?
Yes, Terry Alderman amongst others.

And even if there was not examples (which there are) why wait for someone to get seriously hurt before taking action.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Yes, Terry Alderman amongst others.

And even if there was not examples (which there are) why wait for someone to get seriously hurt before taking action.
tbf Alderman wasn't injured by the spectator - he injured himself when trying to rugby tackle the guy.

However, totally agree that sanctions in these cases should be stiff enough to be a serious deterrant, which probably isn't the case at present.


EDIT
Here's the Alderman incident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrAzhe2Tlxs
 
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wpdavid

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Yes, Terry Alderman amongst others.

And even if there was not examples (which there are) why wait for someone to get seriously hurt before taking action.
Lol he hurt himself in the process of attacking someone!

I was just asking as a genuine question, what are the examples of someone being injured by an intruding spectator? Injuring themselves attacking a spectator is not the same thing.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Lol he hurt himself in the process of attacking someone!

I was just asking as a genuine question, what are the examples of someone being injured by an intruding spectator? Injuring themselves attacking a spectator is not the same thing.
Not an intrusion as such, but the only example I can remember of a spectator trying to injure a player was the guy tried to thump John Snow in 1971. Thankfully he was too drunk to succeed. It's probably on youtube somewhere.
 

Goughy

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Lol he hurt himself in the process of attacking someone!

I was just asking as a genuine question, what are the examples of someone being injured by an intruding spectator? Injuring themselves attacking a spectator is not the same thing.
He was injured due to the fact that someone illegally encroached on the field.

Not the same sport but have a look at 1.07
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Simply, fans should not be allowed on the field for any reason. It is not acceptable. The incident yesterday was of a fan attacking a player, that is comletely unacceptable.
 

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