Ponting attacks Gavaskar and Kumble

[archie mac]

How can you be sure that it's a fact?

Sorry should have said opinion

Although I can't remember anyone saying it was not true?

 

[Athlai]

I was really hoping this would be more literal.

 

[Precambrian]

Sorry should have said opinion

Although I can't remember anyone saying it was not true?

Because everyone else is not bothered to reply to some opinions of Gilly??

Tendulkar said he's always shook hands on the ground itself after the match. So if Gilly was harping on not finding him in the dressing room, it's ranting on technicalities imho.

 

[archie mac]

Because everyone else is not bothered to reply to some opinions of Gilly??

Tendulkar said he's always shook hands on the ground itself after the match. So if Gilly was harping on not finding him in the dressing room, it's ranting on technicalities imho.

But that was just it, it was not ranting, it is taken completly out of context, I am sure if you read the book, you will hardly even notice the passage, it was said in a very general way and i doubt it was meant to be disparaging

 

[honestbharani]

So you haven't read his book?

That settles that, then.

direct quotes mean nothing nowadays......

 

[Jono]

I don't see anything wrong with Ponting's comments... but...

Well I have read it, and thought there was nothing wrong with anything that he said, one of the nicest fellows ever is Gilly

He just stated a fact about SRT, that he was not always around when he lost, nothing it as far as I was concerned after reading it, was a just an observation from Gilly

I disagree here. The insinuation was Australian culture was superior in regards to sportsmanship, and that their ways of white line fever and leaving it all on the field was the right way to go about things. That was obvious.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

direct quotes mean nothing nowadays......

With no scope of context for the whole discussion, then no.

 

[archie mac]

I have nothing wrong with Ponting's comments... but...

I disagree here. The insinuation was Australian culture was superior in regards to sportsmanship, and that their ways of white line fever and leaving it all on the field was the right way to go about things. That was obvious.

I must admit I never got that impression from the book, I thought some of the 'what happens on the field stays on the field' became a little blurred with the Har. Singh stuff but otherwise, Gilly seemed as fair as he could be,

He mentions numerus times of his love for India, and the culture and I never thought he was suggesting that the Australian way was the only way, or that they had the moral high ground when it comes to sportsmanship.

Although I thought he may have been to close to the events to be impartial with his observations

 

[Craig]

I was really hoping this would be more literal.

AWTA.

 

[archie mac]

so I should read the whole book for the context or is that particular chapter alone sufficient?




Or do I have to read every book or article Gilly has written to get a grip of this "context"?

The whole thing

 

[honestbharani]

With no scope of context for the whole discussion, then no.

so I should read the whole book for the context or is that particular chapter alone sufficient?




Or do I have to read every book or article Gilly has written to get a grip of this "context"?

 

[krkode]

I think the fact that these books are being written now, even while these players are active, before they have gained any perspective on their careers, makes the level of sensationalist content a bit unsurprising. I've always found that to be a little sad about entertainment media and the human attitude towards it, that in order to get people to watch/listen, you have to make it controversial or sensationalist (ex. tabloids?). In as such, I wouldn't read too much into what's being written... so what if Ponting criticized Gavaskar? He's got a book to sell, he's got to stir up drama somewhere. If all he had to say about Gavaskar was how good he was against the West Indies, about what a great opener he was, then he might as well write that for CricInfo...

 

[archie mac]

How did I quote a post before it was posted

 

[krkode]

so I should read the whole book for the context or is that particular chapter alone sufficient?




Or do I have to read every book or article Gilly has written to get a grip of this "context"?

No, you should just sit silently to yourself and smirk about the fact that the only one taking a character hit from Gilchrist's comments is Gilchrist himself. That said, he is also the monetary beneficiary of said comments, so good for him.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Or do I have to read every book or article Gilly has written to get a grip of this "context"?

Yes, obviously this is what you must do.

 

[Top_Cat]

No, you should just sit silently to yourself and smirk about the fact that the only one taking a character hit from Gilchrist's comments is Gilchrist himself. That said, he is also the monetary beneficiary of said comments, so good for him.

Yeah exactly. Gilchrist is entitled to his opinion, no matter what it is and it's his damn book! His comments, idiotic or not, will speak for themselves and defending the honour of the target of them is utterly pointless, especially since there's no currency to any of the text at all.

"Gilchrist shockingly re-iterates in his book the opinion he's publicly held for years that he thinks Murali is a chucker!"

Big deal.

 

[Precambrian]

Yeah exactly. Gilchrist is entitled to his opinion, no matter what it is and it's his damn book! His comments, idiotic or not, will speak for themselves and defending the honour of the target of them is utterly pointless, especially since there's no currency to any of the text at all.

"Gilchrist shockingly re-iterates in his book the opinion he's publicly held for years that he thinks Murali is a chucker!"

Big deal.

Do reserve that when Bhajji comes up with a salvo via book/statement/mouth.

 

[biased indian]

isn't it in this same book pontig says that dhoni is not a good captian and he can lead side only to win 20-20 and not test series aganist good side ????

I can let you know in a few days

its available here Link

 

[Ikki]

its available here Link

That link doesn't say anything about Ponting talking about Dhoni's captaincy but Dhoni's batting and in general that why T20s are less predictable and how luck is often accentuated in T20s as it isn't with Test cricket.

"Some of their batsmen -- Yuvraj Singh and M S Dhoni are classic examples -- can hurt you more in shorter games, because their is less opportunity to find ways of picking apart their techniques," he while adding that "Form in Twenty20 really doesn't count for all that much".

"I am not as cynical about the game as I once was, but some negatives still nag at me. There is so much luck involved in this shortened form of the game; it's not always going to be the best team that wins. I guess that's true of all sport but it seems to be accentuated here... Little wonder, then, that the tournament has been unpredictable, with many locals stunned that previously unbeaten South Africa was eliminated so comfortably by India," he said.

 

[Jono]

"I actually sat on the plane right behind Chris Broad, and he made a point of turning around and congratulating me for the way out team approached the game".

Lol.