The 2000 years

[iamdavid]

Shane Bond? debut 2001 IIRC

Damn injuries.....

OK I'll stop the Bond loving now.

Malinga looks to be very good, i don't like Tait's chances though. He lacks accuracy and that leads on to a lack of consistency which is a must for a great. (This isn't me trying to be a Aus hater BTW I'm just being logical)

Agreed on Tait, I think he'll have some very good days playing for Australia coz he's a bowler who when he gets it all right then batsman are powerless to resist. But he'll also have some useless days and I estimate his final test analysis will look something similar to Brett Lee's.

Would also be suprised if injuries dont hurt him alot at some stage of his carear.

 

[Craig]

Agreed on Tait, I think he'll have some very good days playing for Australia coz he's a bowler who when he gets it all right then batsman are powerless to resist. But he'll also have some useless days and I estimate his final test analysis will look something similar to Brett Lee's.

Would also be suprised if injuries dont hurt him alot at some stage of his carear.

Yeah, I just think people are going to have to take Shaun Tait for what he is, a fast bowler who will/can go for a few but has the ability to rip through sides on any given day. So I guess then it becomes a case of wickets v runs and what you call important and acceptable as an economy rate for a strike bowler (that Tait clearly is). We all know Ricky Ponting has been able to get Brett Lee to become a more economical bowler and still keep taking wickets. A Test econ. rate of 3.56 and ODI econ. of 4.63 isn't too bad considering how agressive the game as become (let's face it an ODI total of around 320-330 is very chaseable) and has still being able to keep low a strike rate.

Whilst Stuart Clark has started off very well in Test cricket, I guess time will tell how good he is but he hasn't done a lot wrong thus far. Although you can't really rate him as an ODI bowler so really it should be Tests for him.

Speaking of Mohammed Asif it should be interesting how he and the rest of the Pakistani attack will fare if Geoff Lwson gets the coaching gig of Pakistan.

 

[nightprowler10]

Only three come to mind that I would put my money on dominating the statistics in the next few years:

• Kevin Pietersen
• Mohammad Asif
• Kumar Sangakkarra

Of the players who have shown the potential to be on that list would include Cook, Clarke, Panesar, Sreesanth, and maybe Bell. And last but not least, Dave Mohammad.

 

[shortpitched713]

Only three come to mind that I would put my money on dominating the statistics in the next few years:

• Kevin Pietersen
• Mohammad Asif
• Kumar Sangakkarra

Of the players who have shown the potential to be on that list would include Cook, Clarke, Panesar, Sreesanth, and maybe Bell. And last but not least, Dave Mohammad.

Agree for the most part although I am almost certain that Clarke will dominate opposition bowling attacks in the years to come. In addition I feel that Tait has a good shot to make a considerable impact in international cricket, probably comparable to the impact that Shoaib has had if Tait's long-term fitness is as I expect it to be. Depending on his fitness he could be a long term gun though.

 

[Richard]

KP & Asif are the obvious candidates for greatness in my estimation, with Mrs Pietersen's little boy obviously being infinitely more of a showman, but I'm a little suprised Monty hasn't at least been mentioned. I think genuine greatness may just be beyond him, but he is box office & I think he'll prove himself to be our best spinner since Deadly.

Deadly in the covered wickets era was still fairly average too, though. That's often overlooked due to his somewhat sensational performances in the earlier days.

And Asif might not be quite as much of a showman as KP but well... he's hardly a nonenity either.

 

[Richard]

Kumar Sangakkarra

How on Earth have we all somehow managed to overlook him?

Purely as a batsman he's pretty damn superb, but as a wicketkeeper-batsman he's undoubtedly one of the best players of the 2000s era.

I seriously cannot believe every one of us has forgotten him until now.

 

[Richard]

Give Monty time, he's only a year into his test carear and he's already ticked all the boxes so far including Australia. as Cricinfo's article earlier in the week showed the start to his test carear has been statistically up there with the very best.
He's a super-hard worker so his bowling is only gonna get better.

For a finger-spinner to become know as 'a great' in the modern game would take an awful lot, but with the impact he's had so far I dont think its completely out of Monty's reach.

I think it's impossible, TBH, even though we've seen a (by the standards of the last 35 years) incredible number of spin-friendly Test pitches over here in the last 3 years. Most other destinations outside the subcontinent don't produce enough of them for a fingerspinner to be a great the way they could be in the days of uncovered wickets.

 

[roseboy64]

In terms of the WI based on what they've done so far I'd say Jermaine Lawson, Dwayne Bravo, Jerome Taylor and Fidel Edwards. There's a case for Marlon Samuels as well as dave Mohammed if they're given runs in the team as well as proper guidance. And on Lawson he's done very well so far in his Test career. Better than both Taylor and Edwards AFAIK. Done well in FC too. As long as his action stays clean and the WI selectors trust him, I'd back him to be the best WI fast bowler since Walsh and Ambrose. Just how good I don't know.

 

[Isura]

Mohammed Ashraful. This guy has so much talent it is scary. Hope he gets his head together. Also, Malinga with that action has potential to be unstoppable. Peiterson and Graham Smith also show signs of being great batsmen.

 

[Isura]

How on Earth have we all somehow managed to overlook him?

Purely as a batsman he's pretty damn superb, but as a wicketkeeper-batsman he's undoubtedly one of the best players of the 2000s era.

I seriously cannot believe every one of us has forgotten him until now.

I try not to be biased towards our own guys. But yes, I agree he is a gun player. I think he can challenge Gilchrist for greatest keeper/batsmen.

 

[sohummisra]

How long will it take him to get in the team on a regular basis and prove himself though? If anything, I think Chawla will be a playing of 2010's era - I don't see him getting a regular place in the team and then proving himself within in the next two and a half years. Asif and Malinga have already laid the groundwork.

I think a successful ODI performance in the upcoming tour may coax the selectors into including him in the Test squad for England. FC experience is definitely a must, although one won't be able to read too much into his performances there.

 

[sohummisra]

I think India will be a real test of his progress as he had a fairly ordinary start to his test career over there (not terrible, but not fantastic either) and (no disrespect intended) they should be better players of SLA than the Windies.

We should be better players of slow left armers but it looks like a few of our guys who gorged on spinners earlier are erring on the side of caution. Which is not a bad thing, but it will mean that Monty will be able to get on top of them. I definitely think Monty has it in him to become a great if he keeps improving.

 

[sohummisra]

Mohammed Ashraful. This guy has so much talent it is scary. Hope he gets his head together. Also, Malinga with that action has potential to be unstoppable. Peiterson and Graham Smith also show signs of being great batsmen.

There're a couple of Bangladeshis who can have really, really great characters with a bit of maturity. Ashraful has been around for a while (wasn't he the youngest debutant?) but he's finally pulling it together. I think Mortaza is shaping into one of Bangladesh's best cricketers of all time--if he can keep himself out of injuries. There's also a lot of promise in Aftab Ahmed and Saqibul Hasan. I think if Bangladesh start winning a few games regularly, these guys' performance will be looked at much more.

 

[Isura]

There're a couple of Bangladeshis who can have really, really great characters with a bit of maturity. Ashraful has been around for a while (wasn't he the youngest debutant?) but he's finally pulling it together. I think Mortaza is shaping into one of Bangladesh's best cricketers of all time--if he can keep himself out of injuries. There's also a lot of promise in Aftab Ahmed and Saqibul Hasan. I think if Bangladesh start winning a few games regularly, these guys' performance will be looked at much more.

Yes, I really like Mortaza. He can be a genuine all-rounder at test level.

 

[HariDesi]

Do you think Tamim Iqbal has the potential to be a great batsman for Bangladesh, at least in one dayers? To me he looks a good prospect for the future.

As far as the younger Indian bowlers are concerned Sreesanth looks to be the best candidate at this point for future greatness. I think Ishant Sharma might have the potential in the future, he has the frame and just needs to fill out a bit. In my opinion he should've had more time to develop at the domestic level before being picked for England.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how our fast bowlers do in England. Hopefully we'll be closer to figuring out who has the greatest potential by the end.

 

[Perm]

Do you think Tamim Iqbal has the potential to be a great batsman for Bangladesh, at least in one dayers?

No.

 

[Fiery]

No.

You could at least provide a reason. That's a bit dismissive to HariDasi's 1st post. Welcome to the forum HariDesi . (Don't mind Perm, he knows not what he does).

Remind us not to include you in any welcoming parties Perm

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

Do you think Tamim Iqbal has the potential to be a great batsman for Bangladesh, at least in one dayers? To me he looks a good prospect for the future.

Probably not a great batsman, but a destructive player who can swing an ODI in a matter of a few overs. Like most batsmen of a similar style however, he's as likely to drag one on for a handful than to smash a 30-ball fifty. We'll see - he should be a fixture in years to come though.

 

[Perm]

You could at least provide a reason. That's a bit dismissive to HariDasi's 1st post. Welcome to the forum HariDesi . (Don't mind Perm, he knows not what he does).

Remind us not to include you in any welcoming parties Perm

I gave an answer, was in no mood to explain fully unless asked.

 

[Fiery]

I gave an answer, was in no mood to explain fully unless asked.

ok