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State & Future of New Zealand Cricket

Fiery

Banned
Exactly - I usually do and those like yourself who are foolish enough to take me on eventually reach said point-of-no-return.

Might as well give-up before you start next time... I'm not concerned with the loss of 20 posts or so just through lack of argument with you.
Keep kidding yourself that you usually win Richard. People usually decide that you're an over-opiniated plonker, who finds it necessary to post on every thread regardless of the fact you obviously haven't thought about or know much about most of them, and end up just ignoring you
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
Haha, what a knob (not Fiery).

So, to the rest of you: how about them Black Caps?

I actually don't think our batting situation's as dire as it looks. Once Bracewell is gone and we get a reasonably stable lineup (injuries notwithstanding), I reckon there's actually plenty of candidates to stay at home and work on their game in the domestic comps.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Keep kidding yourself that you usually win Richard. People usually decide that you're an over-opiniated plonker, who finds it necessary to post on every thread regardless of the fact you obviously haven't thought about or know much about most of them, and end up just ignoring you
Haha, what a knob (not Fiery).
Was it really not obvious to either of you that that post was ironic?

And surprise surprise... we see the losing-the-argument-resort-to-insult-throwing... again...
 

Fiery

Banned
And surprise surprise... we see the losing-the-argument-resort-to-insult-throwing... again...
It's not that Richard. The reason people end up insulting you is your reluctance to budge on any opinion once you have decided on one, no matter how blatantly wrong it is, or to accept anyone elses opinions no matter how valid and correct. It's actually a Richard-refusing-to concede-defeat-again-because-he's-too-pig-headed-so-might-as-well-resort-to-insult-throwing...again
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
It not even that really. I could certainly respect his stubbornness if he wasn't such a dick about it. A little humility, and acknowledging that what he says is only his opinion and not gospel truth, would certainly go a long way.

Mind you, that would make life boring. I love reading his obstinate defences of his ridiculous theories.
 

Fiery

Banned
It not even that really. I could certainly respect his stubbornness if he wasn't such a dick about it. A little humility, and acknowledging that what he says is only his opinion and not gospel truth, would certainly go a long way.

Mind you, that would make life boring. I love reading his obstinate defences of his ridiculous theories.
Too true.
 
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McKanga

School Boy/Girl Captain
....People usually decide that you're an over-opinionated plonker, who finds it necessary to post on every thread regardless of the fact you obviously haven't thought about or know much about most of them, and end up just ignoring you
No, no! I won't hear it said.

(From the Fawlty Towers episode where Basil indignantly repeats the claim of an unhappy guest that Fawlty Towers is the worst hotel in Britain and the Major overhearing says something like "No, no! I won't hear it said, there's a place in Basingstoke....").
 
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Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
It's not that Richard. The reason people end up insulting you is your reluctance to budge on any opinion once you have decided on one, no matter how blatantly wrong it is, or to accept anyone elses opinions no matter how valid and correct. It's actually a Richard-refusing-to concede-defeat-again-because-he's-too-pig-headed-so-might-as-well-resort-to-insult-throwing...again
You're a fine one to talk on that...

Listen, if I have a good reason to change my opinion, I do so. It doesn't happen especially often, but it does happen. You, not being a continuous board-member, have obviously not had the chance to experience a full repetoire.

What may appear blatantly wrong to some can appear blatantly correct to others... it might have seemed, in early 2004, that I was blatantly wrong to brand Harmison still not a proven Test-class bowler. Yet I stuck to my guns, and funnily enough I was right in the end.

And there are examples of my yielding to situations and altering my view on a player - see Andrew Flintoff the Test bowler and Andrew Symonds the ODI batsman, for example.
 

Will Scarlet

U19 Debutant
yes & scring runs vs the top attacks compared to mediocre/average one's seperates the best from the rest. Thats why Astle can't be called a star..
Astle's been a star: he's just not at the moment. He hasn't played a lot of cricket in the last six months and is out of form, which can get horribly exposed when you're opening on two-paced pitches against quality bowling . He's scored centuries in both tests and ODIs against most opposition.

He could do with a solid opening partner, rather than Fleming - who is in just as bad form?

John Bracewell, if you are indeed on cricketweb looking for some ideas, how about sending over Vincent or Cumming over to address the need for a form opener.
 
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Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Astle's been a star: he's just not at the moment. He hasn't played a lot of cricket in the last six months and is out of form, which can get horribly exposed when you're opening on two-paced pitches against quality bowling . He's scored centuries in both tests and ODIs against most opposition.

He could do with a solid opening partner, rather than Fleming - who is in just as bad form?

John Bracewell, if you are indeed on cricketweb looking for some ideas, how about sending over Vincent or Cumming over to address the need for a form opener.
Great, yet more chances for that perennial-failure Lou Vincent... and remind me again what Cumming's one-day averages are?

Surely, surely, there must be some better one-day openers knocking around New Zealand? Where's Michael Papps at these days? His performances in the few ODIs he played at least weren't bad...
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
I know - it says "huh", which can mean all sorts of things, really... and the expression is more bemused than anything else.
That's correct, poindexter. I was indeed bemused by the link you provided, which seems to bear no relation to what you were talking about, especially seeing as the poster linked to isn't you.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Wasn't he? You didn't notice that he was replying to me (all right, he didn't attach my name to the quote, but a simple scroll upwards would reveal all)? And saying "you don't need to preface everything with 'in my opinion', pal"? Which would suggest that doing so was a pretty common trait of mine.
 

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