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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine
    And yet another big cup is decided by a glorified stone paper scissors competition - this is exactly why cricket is so much better.
    Because a bowl-off is so much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby
    My favourite (that I remember) is 1987, but that may be 'cos T*ttenham lost in extra time to an oggy! I'm sure Marc would agree too...
    The 87 Cup Final was a truly great game, regardless of who won.

    Might go and watch it on DVD now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steds
    I like penalties. It's the most exciting football gets (which quite frankly bores me to death)
    You're weird...whats in there to like the penalties?The real skill is in the real play in the 90 minutes which is better than any skill-showing on earth

    ...I feel for the Goal-Keepers though,have all the pressure in the world on their shoulders in the shoot-outsAlso felt bad for Scholes yesterday...and even Patrick Viera indiectly acknowledged that Man U were better team during his post-match interview
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    Keepers DO NOT have pressure on them during a shoot-out.

    Think about it, what do you expect to happen?

    The goalie to save it or the striker to score?

    Scholes didn't perform that well, not as bad as Beckham in Euro 2004 or Waddle/Pearce.

    Lehmann deserved MOM, the amount of times he saved us from the Axe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee999
    Keepers DO NOT have pressure on them during a shoot-out.

    Think about it, what do you expect to happen?

    The goalie to save it or the striker to score?
    are you kidding me!?? have you tried keeping in a shootout?? damned nerve-wracking
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc
    are you kidding me!?? have you tried keeping in a shootout?? damned nerve-wracking
    But yeah he's somewhat right.Penalty shootouts are decided by how many you score..not by how many your keepers save.
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    Man United outclassed Arsenal for large parts of the match, but they didn't take any of their brilliant chances to score. That's mainly down to Jens Lehmann, who was excellent in keeping his goal. On so many occasions Arsenal could have conceded but didn't because of him and they kept their cool when it mattered to win the Penalty Shoot-Out. Paul Scholes was the only player to have his kick saved. He shot it at a good height and not far enough into the corner for Lehmann to save. There must have been a lot of pressure on Patrick Vieira to score the last kick because if he had missed it would have taken the Shoot-Out to Sudden Death and surely made the match open for both teams again. I'm happy that Arsenal won the FA Cup, but Man United now need to pick themselves up and get ready for a fresh start next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc
    are you kidding me!?? have you tried keeping in a shootout?? damned nerve-wracking
    That's as maybe, but who remembers the keeper after the game?

    The story is about the one who misses, not the keeper who doesn't make a save.

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    I'd say the keepers have the better of it in shoot outs, they have (usually) at least 5 chances to be a hero, the poor old taker gets just the one.

    Scholes didn't have a bad game, but in a year's time all we'll remember is his miss. Ditto Vassell, Batty, Ince, Southgate, Pearce, Waddle......
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    That's as maybe, but who remembers the keeper after the game?

    The story is about the one who misses, not the keeper who doesn't make a save.
    Think there was a German Cup semi where the keeper saved three shots, then scored the deciding penalty! Then you remember the keeper...
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    Now doubt it was Hans-Jorg Butt?

    But then again he's more remembered for scoring the winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Because a bowl-off is so much better.
    They hardly ever happen tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine
    They hardly ever happen tho.
    *Compares cricket and football's scoring systems and accompanying likelihoods of non-conclusive results in knock-out games*

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc
    are you kidding me!?? have you tried keeping in a shootout?? damned nerve-wracking
    indeed it is nerve wracking, but as the keeper you are not expected to save any, the pressure is very much on the striker or whoever else is taking the kick. I mean really there should be no reason or excuse (within reason) for a good player failing to score from 12 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikhil1772
    You're weird...whats in there to like the penalties?The real skill is in the real play in the 90 minutes which is better than any skill-showing on earth
    As I said, it's far far more exciting than the 90 minutes which is so full of skill.

    Maybe watching so much Rugby League has changed my mind-set. I naturally expect the whole game as action-packed as a game of League and I've forgotten to appreciate the subtle skills of a boring football game.

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