Michael Clarke Discussion thread

sledger · 18-09-2004, 04:27 AM

talented batsman and the future of australian cricket or overated?

luckyeddie · 18-09-2004, 04:29 AM

very talented player.

No one person can ever be calssified as the 'Future of Australian Cricket' - Flintoff is English.

Jono · 18-09-2004, 04:31 AM

He's extremely talented, and with more and more experience he'll become a very dangerous player.

Waughney · 18-09-2004, 05:57 AM

Clarke could very well be the future of Australian cricket, and there is no doubt that he is an amazing talent, but he still needs to improve to earn a spot in the current Australian side.
He is still very young but needs to get into the team and learn, maybe get dropped (like everyone in the Aussie team before him) and then come back better and stronger than ever.

age_master · 18-09-2004, 06:01 AM

he along with Shane watson lead the next generation (the under 25's) of Aussie cricket. certainly a great OD player already, maybe 1 more season before he plays test cricket - though he might get a chance in India through illness or injury, one never knows - great footwork vs the spinners.

Waughney · 18-09-2004, 06:05 AM

Yes, that's a real asset of his, amazing footwork.

Nnanden · 18-09-2004, 06:26 AM

not over-rated, he will improve, but he has already done very well for his age.

lord_of_darkness · 18-09-2004, 06:27 AM

i dont think much of Watson.. although Clarke with improvement will be a great asset for Australia.. as the only think Australia do lack currently is a good all rounder.. get flintoff to come over?

Son Of Coco · 18-09-2004, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lord_of_darkness

i dont think much of Watson.. although Clarke with improvement will be a great asset for Australia.. as the only think Australia do lack currently is a good all rounder.. get flintoff to come over?

Like I said on another thread, Watson's only 23 - Flintoff wasn't much when he was the same age, Watson may well develop into a handy all-rounder in the next few years.

I'm not sure us not having a good all-rounder is even an issue, the last 10 years or so have kind of proven that we don't really need one.

lord_of_darkness · 18-09-2004, 07:09 AM

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Like I said on another thread, Watson's only 23 - Flintoff wasn't much when he was the same age, Watson may well develop into a handy all-rounder in the next few years.

I'm not sure us not having a good all-rounder is even an issue, the last 10 years or so have kind of proven that we don't really need one.

Fair point.. but Australia might not end up persisting with Watson for that long given the amount of talent they could set back on.. Flintoff always looked like he had something .. he had aggression , was dedicated and im sure his off field ethics were really strong to learna and continue improving his game which the coach and the selection would have been sure to notice..

point 2 , having a class all rounder might just make Australia more invincible/stronger than it already is now.. now wouldnt you like to see that? someone who could do a kallis/flintoff..? someone who could do quite well with the bat and provide more than a good support as a 5/6th bowler normally would , could better Australias chances lots..

The Baconator · 18-09-2004, 01:04 PM

I dunno if hes the future of australian cricket but he's sure got talent and potential

Eclipse · 18-09-2004, 10:14 PM

Dont underestmate Watson it looks now as though his bowling is not going to reach a very high standerd but his batting is world class..

At this stage he would be ahead of Clarke for a test spot because he has proven to be a much better batsman in FC cricket to date.

Waughney · 18-09-2004, 10:51 PM

I disagree, Clarke has already proven himslef at an international level, whereas Watson hasn't.

Jnr. · 18-09-2004, 11:11 PM

Clarke has proven himself at ODI level, not Test level.
Watson's First-Class batting average is about 10 more than Clarke's.
That said, Clarke is definitely very talented and can do well in the Test arena with more FC experience.

a massive zebra · 18-09-2004, 11:48 PM

Not yet worth his place in the Australian side but has a great future ahead of him.

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18-09-2004, 04:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
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luckyeddie Cricket Web Staff Member Target Champion! Stuarts Xtreme Skateboarding Champion! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Derby, England Posts: 17,402	very talented player. No one person can ever be calssified as the 'Future of Australian Cricket' - Flintoff is English. __________________ Nigel Clough's Black and White Army

18-09-2004, 04:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jono Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 23,538	He's extremely talented, and with more and more experience he'll become a very dangerous player. __________________ Proof that Giles is a better allrounder than Flintoff "Yeah, he's soft. He only looks big and strong but he's soft." Chris Gayle describing Shane Watson

18-09-2004, 05:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Waughney International Debutant Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Outback Aus. Answer's yes, the middle of nowhere Posts: 2,693	Clarke could very well be the future of Australian cricket, and there is no doubt that he is an amazing talent, but he still needs to improve to earn a spot in the current Australian side. He is still very young but needs to get into the team and learn, maybe get dropped (like everyone in the Aussie team before him) and then come back better and stronger than ever. __________________ Member of MSC - Murali Supporters Club I'm not too dissimilar a batsman to Bradman. Both of us have batting averages below 100.

18-09-2004, 06:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
age_master Hall of Fame Member Plasmanaut on Fire Champion! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 15,296	he along with Shane watson lead the next generation (the under 25's) of Aussie cricket. certainly a great OD player already, maybe 1 more season before he plays test cricket - though he might get a chance in India through illness or injury, one never knows - great footwork vs the spinners. __________________ Member of CW Green Kerry O'Keefe - Worlds funniest Commentator

18-09-2004, 06:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
Waughney International Debutant Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Outback Aus. Answer's yes, the middle of nowhere Posts: 2,693	Yes, that's a real asset of his, amazing footwork.

18-09-2004, 06:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
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18-09-2004, 06:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
lord_of_darkness Cricket Web XI Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 13,250	i dont think much of Watson.. although Clarke with improvement will be a great asset for Australia.. as the only think Australia do lack currently is a good all rounder.. get flintoff to come over? __________________ Don L-o-d , Legion Of Doom Lords Lounge, Off Topic, The Happening Place in CW and OT. Co Chairman CWBCC - Cricketweb XI - CW Green \| Manager of Hampshire CC - Wccc \| Chairman of the Muralitharan Supporters Club ~MSC~ \| Current Stats: 2* - 17-4-35-3 - Season Ends.. Current Record Batting - RHB: M:48 Inns:43 Runs:457 H/S:33* Ave:15.5 N.O:10 Bowling - Off Spin: O:280 M:40 Runs:975 Wickets:104 Ave:9.3 S.R:15.6

18-09-2004, 01:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
The Baconator International Vice-Captain Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield Posts: 4,400	I dunno if hes the future of australian cricket but he's sure got talent and potential __________________ T'name's Alex Biglands Trophy runner-up Tasmania WCC Manager - Currently looking for a 2nd XI coach CW Blue Keeper Southern Stallions vice-captain

18-09-2004, 10:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Eclipse International Debutant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nere a Spoon Posts: 2,836	Dont underestmate Watson it looks now as though his bowling is not going to reach a very high standerd but his batting is world class.. At this stage he would be ahead of Clarke for a test spot because he has proven to be a much better batsman in FC cricket to date.

18-09-2004, 10:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Waughney International Debutant Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Outback Aus. Answer's yes, the middle of nowhere Posts: 2,693	I disagree, Clarke has already proven himslef at an international level, whereas Watson hasn't.

18-09-2004, 11:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jnr. U19 Captain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: silly mid off Posts: 650	Clarke has proven himself at ODI level, not Test level. Watson's First-Class batting average is about 10 more than Clarke's. That said, Clarke is definitely very talented and can do well in the Test arena with more FC experience.

18-09-2004, 11:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
a massive zebra International Debutant Duck Hunt Champion! Eggs Champion! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: on my ass @ the PC Posts: 2,718	Not yet worth his place in the Australian side but has a great future ahead of him. __________________ THE ULTIMATE CRICKET WEB ARCADE EGGS CHAMPION Patron of the MSC - Muttiah Muralitharan Supporters Club The undisputed king of spin. RIP Fardin Qayyumi (AKA "cricket player"; "Bob"), 1990-2006

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