Michael Clarke Discussion thread - Page 2

Mr. P · 19-09-2004, 12:01 AM

Certainly a lot of potential. He was overhyped too early and had far to much pressure on him at such a young age. I personally think he will become a very good player, but he is a long way off the test side at the moment.

As for Watson, I don't think much of him, I would rather play Symonds...(sounds crazy eh?)

luckyeddie · 19-09-2004, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. P

As for Watson, I don't think much of him, I would rather play Symonds...(sounds crazy eh?)

Sounds eminently sensible to me (at least for a try) - he's not exactly had a fair crack of the whip in the big game

Jnr. · 19-09-2004, 12:58 AM

To me, Watson seems like he would be a better Test player than he would be an ODI player (ie I think he is better suited to the longer form of the game).

lord_of_darkness · 19-09-2004, 04:28 AM

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Sounds eminently sensible to me (at least for a try) - he's not exactly had a fair crack of the whip in the big game

I think symonds would do quite well considering the form he has been having he does deserve a lot more opportunities.. but the australian board is probably looking to mould youth / future of australian cricket so they will continue to persist with watson..

marc71178 · 19-09-2004, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Son Of Coco

Like I said on another thread, Watson's only 23 - Flintoff wasn't much when he was the same age

He wasn't bowling properly then.

It's only in the last 2 years or so he's been bowling properly.

marc71178 · 19-09-2004, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Eclipse

Dont underestmate Watson it looks now as though his bowling is not going to reach a very high standerd but his batting is world class..

Batting is World Class despite the fact he's not played a Test and his ODI average owes more than a little to his 9 not outs from 17 (he doesn't even score quickly in ODIs!)

Surely one can only be a World Class batsman when they play Internationally?

Mr. P · 19-09-2004, 07:00 AM

Bowling properly? How is that an excuse?

Watson isn't bowling properly now.

It's only in the next 2 years or so he'll be bowling properly.

Mr. P · 19-09-2004, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

Surely one can only be a World Class batsman when they play Internationally?

One could argue against that. (Hick?)

marc71178 · 19-09-2004, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. P

Bowling properly? How is that an excuse?

All Rounders need to both bat and bowl.

Owing to injuries, at 23 or so, Flintoff wasn't bowling.

marc71178 · 19-09-2004, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. P

One could argue against that. (Hick?)

World Class?

Don't think so.

Mr. P · 19-09-2004, 07:14 AM

Hmm I suppose it depends on how you define "world class"

Some people here seem to think Tikolo and Odumbe are world class, I think Bashar is world class...so I don't see how Hick isn't. He has such a superb record, just unfulfilled at international level but I don't think that means he was a not-so-great player...

Put it down to whatever you want, but Hick has to be rated highly IMO...

marc71178 · 19-09-2004, 07:16 AM

World Class performers can only be called world class by playing at the highest level.

Mr. P · 19-09-2004, 07:18 AM

Maybe yes. Maybe no.

Who would you rate higher, Tikolo or Blewett?

marc71178 · 19-09-2004, 09:28 AM

In terms of World Class, neither.

Son Of Coco · 19-09-2004, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by marc71178

He wasn't bowling properly then.

It's only in the last 2 years or so he's been bowling properly.

Averages suggest he certainly wasn't, Watson's coming back from injury, is it fair to suggest he's not bowling properly too?

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19-09-2004, 12:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
Mr. P International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: . Posts: 4,710	Certainly a lot of potential. He was overhyped too early and had far to much pressure on him at such a young age. I personally think he will become a very good player, but he is a long way off the test side at the moment. As for Watson, I don't think much of him, I would rather play Symonds...(sounds crazy eh?)

19-09-2004, 12:58 AM	#18 (permalink)
Jnr. State 12th Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Queensland Posts: 785	To me, Watson seems like he would be a better Test player than he would be an ODI player (ie I think he is better suited to the longer form of the game).

19-09-2004, 07:00 AM	#22 (permalink)
Mr. P International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: . Posts: 4,710	Bowling properly? How is that an excuse? Watson isn't bowling properly now. It's only in the next 2 years or so he'll be bowling properly.

19-09-2004, 07:14 AM	#26 (permalink)
Mr. P International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: . Posts: 4,710	Hmm I suppose it depends on how you define "world class" Some people here seem to think Tikolo and Odumbe are world class, I think Bashar is world class...so I don't see how Hick isn't. He has such a superb record, just unfulfilled at international level but I don't think that means he was a not-so-great player... Put it down to whatever you want, but Hick has to be rated highly IMO...

19-09-2004, 07:16 AM	#27 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,334	World Class performers can only be called world class by playing at the highest level.

19-09-2004, 07:18 AM	#28 (permalink)
Mr. P International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: . Posts: 4,710	Maybe yes. Maybe no. Who would you rate higher, Tikolo or Blewett?

19-09-2004, 09:28 AM	#29 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,334	In terms of World Class, neither.

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