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    England 48 all out :P
    Or something.

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    Neil Carter is a bit of a guru up the order for Warwickshire...
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    Quote Originally Posted by one_dayer
    How about England open batting with Harmisson, give him an Afridi like role, let him swing that tree trunk of a bat he uses at every ball instead of wasteing him at the bottom of the order!!

    Im going to get flamed now
    Difference between those two is, Harmison can bat....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    Difference between those two is, Harmison can bat....
    Yeah, I bet Afridi can't play the reverse sweep like Harmy. Harmy's gonna break Afridi's 37-ball hundred record in the Ashes ODIs next year, you heard it here first!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Rubble
    Didn't Harmison smack a 95mph Brett Lee delivery for six last time England were out in Australia? He got 20* I think in the one match England won.

    Not a great idea promoting him, but not the worst I've ever heard. Although Johnson is a better slogger than Harmy and he got 0 at no3.

    Javagal Srinath did a good job of it at the 99 World Cup, as I remember - it works every now and again.
    In Srinath's 5 innings in WC99 he batted as follows: nine, eight, eight, eight, seven.
    Harmison did indeed hammer a Lee Full-Toss over mid-wicket for four, in fact, but it was perhaps the best moment of The Ashes - no credit for Harmison, just great to see one of Australia's most beloved sons humiliated by an Englishman who can't bat for $hit. The ultimate symbol of how the series had turned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    Difference between those two is, Harmison can bat....
    No, difference is, Afridi's got a shedload of talent that he's totally wasted for the last 2 years; Harmison is massively overrated after a few slog-fests against a totally clueless attack recently.
    I'd like to see him (or, rather, I wouldn't) do that to Nel and Ntini in 5 months' time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt
    Neil Carter is a bit of a guru up the order for Warwickshire...
    Carter's continued presence at the top of Warwicks' order in one-day-cricket is one of the more infuriating things for me.
    It's reached the phase where Nick Knight, England's greatest ever one-day player and an opener and nothing else, has been forced to bat three of times this season.
    Mark Wagh, also a natural opener in the one-day game (not so in the First-Class game IMO), hasn't batted there.
    Carter is basically a number-eleven and whenever he makes 5 or less I laugh emphatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    fun to watch though
    No, it's not fun, not if good bowlers are involved.
    There is absolutely nothing worse, for me, than seeing good bowlers slogged by tail-enders.
    Fun seeing crap ones slogged, though - like Harmison being hammered all over The Oval by Harbhajan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Rubble
    Yeah, I bet Afridi can't play the reverse sweep like Harmy. Harmy's gonna break Afridi's 37-ball hundred record in the Ashes ODIs next year, you heard it here first!
    So The NatWest Challenge has been renamed "The Ashes ODIs", now, then?

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    No, it's not fun, not if good bowlers are involved.
    There is absolutely nothing worse, for me, than seeing good bowlers slogged by tail-enders.
    Fun seeing crap ones slogged, though - like Harmison being hammered all over The Oval by Harbhajan
    What exactly is so bad about it?
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    Players who shouldn't really be scoring any runs either messing-up figures or compounding agony.
    Nothing worse for me than seeing a good player made to look bad by someone who isn't really good enough to be doing so, and under normal circumstances wouldn't have a cat-in-hell's chance of doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    Players who shouldn't really be scoring any runs either messing-up figures or compounding agony.
    Nothing worse for me than seeing a good player made to look bad by someone who isn't really good enough to be doing so, and under normal circumstances wouldn't have a cat-in-hell's chance of doing so.
    All part of the game Richard, all part of the game. The 'normal circumstances' (for tailenders) aren't when the ball is new and when the bowler is at his prime, but when the ball is old and bowlers are tired.

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    I'd take seeing a tail-ender against the new-ball every time. Then we'd see a much more proper reflection of their ability.
    Still, even in normal circumstances (older ball) the good bowler will oust the useless slogger more often than not.
    It's the anomalies that annoy me.

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    It's the anomalies that annoy me.
    So you get annoyed when England wins

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    Except that, in Test-matches in 2004, them not winning has been very much the anomaly.

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